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The FBI's 62-HQ-83894 case file includes investigative records, eyewitness testimonies, and public reports concerning Unidentified Flying Objects and flying discs documented between June 1947 and July 1968. The records include high-profile incident accounts, photographic evidence from sites like Oak Ridge, TN, and technical proposals regarding potential propulsion systems. Additional topics include convention programs, researcher accounts, and extensive media coverage from the period. This file is partially posted on FBI vault with more redactions and some pages missing. Included here is the complete case file with several newly declassified pages and only minor redactions.

_· C O N F I D E N T I A L
Au1horily:

NND 90986

IN IUi.PlY

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'9 3 9 1 - / a 11

HEADQUA R TE R S

AIR DEFENSE COMMAND
MITCHEL FIELD, NEW YORK

REFER TO,

12 Septel.'liber 19iT

'OBJCCT a Unident1f'ie Flying Objoot
(Int rvin - Alphew, o. Powell)
SUl.nlART O? mama TIO I

The following information ft8 recei'Y&d 12 At1£U1t 1947 fro:i Ur.
lpheua O. P01'ell , 28 Redwood Road, New Hyde Park, Loni; hlWld, rel tifl
to the sighting of a poaoible flying d1so ~ Augu•t 194T.
On 4 Auguet 19•7, r Powell, an Airlinea Captain with P n American
Ainni.ye , Jne., waa the firet pilot or a Con1tollat1on type airoraft on•
flight trcm Gander, ewtoundland, to La Guardia Field.. 1ew York. Mr. Powell
took oTer the airoratt at Gander, ewfoundla.a.d and departed at approd111atel7
l2SO P. lf., Eo.ateni Dqlight Saving 'Hm ror La Guardia Field, Bow York. At
1600 P• • , at poe1tioa approximately lld.dway between the Enrett (
a) F&n
Arker IUld the Bedford Badio Eoooon (ETerott ie 3 mile• ffl7 or Boeton.. Ka•• ••
and Bodford 1• 15 ms.1..
or the same oity) both llr Powoll and Mr iv.
1:e,
naT16ator on this trip, •i(;bted wrl.dent1.i'ioble flying objeota . fo the be•t
ot llr . Povell'• knowledge, the tollonng weatbar oond1t1ons existed at that
time , Visib1li't7 wae 6oodJ cloud oo.erage ••• trom. 8- 9/l.Oths # with topn at
10. 000 feeta md the wind at the e.ooo toot level was eati:.atod o.s bcin&
270/25 mlca per hour . The iroratt was at a.ooo teet1 airspeed 266 mphi
&!ld the course•• 214 degre•• • magnetic.
Ur mute , who wae sitting in the co-pilots seat (the right aide ot
the oookpit) fir1t ce.lled 11:r. Powell ' ■ attention to a bright orango objeot,.
-.rhich was on the right ald• ot' the plane , and slightly below the lovol of' the
a1rerart . Jlr Powell fflll unable to 1ee the object. a1 he ba.d no visibility to
the right nd down. from bla position.
Po,rell inmediatoly cl11noed out bi1
eide wiudow and noticed, at a 45° angle to the lort. and unidentified tl:y1ng
object. It wu bout one mile nay at an altitude or approx1matel 7 1 , 800
feet. Irr- Powell banked to obtain a better view or the objeot. The object
'fte under obaervat1on ~or approxtmatoly 50 ••oond1, and during thie time waa
vie,red by
Ponlle 1lr Powell dHor1be4 the objeot aa being bout the length
ot & P-40 t uaelage , blunt at both end■ , 07llnclrioal in abspe . and hatlng a
bright oran,o hue . Kr Powell. stated that the object had• definite sbapo,
d
that there 1me no aucgeatioa or gaaeoua d1ec1pe.t1on •• there would be lf the
orange color wore the •xbauat tro~ • rocket , or a jet airoratt. Mr ~owell
eatimato4 the oouree or th• objoot to be 200° magnetic, end that th• object
wae tra-relling at approxinatel:, 160 aph. Kr Po,rc,11 loat sight or th• object,
when. • oleud oaae between. the aircraft and the object. :rhe pursuit of 'th•
object ..._. not oontinud. lnaaJIWOh H it would ha-re neoeaai tated a departur•
from the eetabliahed aiJ"'lla1'• •

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CONFID~NTIAL

C b N -F I D E ~~ T I A L
HEADQ U ARTERS

AIR DEFENSE COMMAND

IN REPlY

MITCHEL FIELD, NEW 'I/OR~

IIEFEII TO:

15 Septeaber 194,'7

StmJI?C'f z.

Unldcntif ied Flying Object,
(Interview - alter I. \i'hlto)

S0?.!!1\RY OP Ir.FOlll!AHO t
The follo-.ung informtion rcl~tivo to th8 d htiug or f. possible
tlying di~o 6 Auzuat 1947. was received 10 Septo bor 1941 from Mr. Walter
I . 'Whito, 19-67 19th Street. Ja.clcaon He1ghta, h• York.
On 4 Ausu,t 1947., Hr.
1 te, Pen American Airwa,- Ino. • wao tho
navigator or• Comtellation typ• &iroraft 011 & flight :fro O nder., Baw­
roundlo.nd to La Guardia f iel4, New York. At 1600; at & po•ition appro~i­
matel y 10 miles
, or Bosto11, l!ua • ., Mr- v::bitc aighted a .tlyin(S object '1hioh
h• waa unable to identif'7. At thi• time IL'" lffllit• was oi'ttift6 1n the co­
pilote sent, and loolc'lns out the right aide tor other uroratt that mlcht

be in the, vie111S:t:,.

J6r Wb1te •te.ted that when he t1rst

i~ted t!te object.

it nppou-od to o about S miloa awuy, aud at l•Qat 1. 000 ~eet beloir the leffl
or the Conetellation. Mr i:hite beli•~•• tut he etudled th object tor almo■t
SO aecond• befcre he called th• pilot'• att:Gntioa to i t.
White doncr1bed
the object•• 'being a deep gold in color. md that its• surface rerlected
lieht. It appeered to bo bout 113 feet iJl:. length,. and. f'rOltl 2-:; feet in depthJ
elli ptloal in 1h9pe and blanted at th cn4e. Hr
te eati ted the speed of
the obj1ot as being 176 mi.lea per hour. e.nd that it
tra..-ellin& in 11D ee.at-

r l y cilreotion~ one eourso ot approxitlately llOQ
r,uetia. Mr Wlute then
told tho nirore.ft oomm:i.ndor that there wns wi un1dentU'ied object to the r16}\t.
and ag~in glanced ..out to observe the objoot, oatoh1ng a me atary gl1111.pce ot
it before th9 pilot b11nked the pl ne to the left. ffllen tbt e.1rorntt banltod
Ur White lost light of the 0bjsat. At thil potnt. Mr Powell, 'the aircraft
C&ptain, exolaime<l that he wa.s &ble to eo a air:d.lar obj9ot on hia o1do.
Jir \'ihi t. was unsble to ts o tne objeot on ' Pcrwoll' e •ide. ne •tated the.t

he does not bel1en that it wuc tho• • obj~ot that he had Tielffld ift.8.elllUCh
aa the on he li&W 1r it ha<t romaiuod on the aa oow- e woud ha.TO beou
hidden trom 'View b;y that titie b7 'tho Wii:iGB t1nd tail oectioff! or the Conctella­
tion. ~ ffld to st tod 1.hat the pilot thoo righted the plo.:a.o. t'he ontb•• iu­
oident transpired in leoe 'then a min~te ond one-halt.

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'Mr tvhito deacriMa 'tlie
ath~, ooniition et the tilne of' si&btinE• •
0
folloirs a a'bout 6/lOt aoattered oumul ua, arith top• at 10.000 r et: vidblH.ty
10 miloe, w1rid at t·Ught lowl. 'l'est at a:bout 16 lllph. 1'he !'light level of th•
a iror aft &t this ti ,nq,, a .'000 feet, TAB 270_ and tho
cnotlo course was SW.
\
AGEB1'S HOfflS , J4r ,c.l ter I .
1:te ha obeon employed by P&n
rioan Airway,
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for -the pa.at t'i "\"O years •• a
Tiie.tor. and during the
r Y10r1cod with Pil

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co~~FIDE~~TIAL

co~~FIDE~~TIAL..
in conjunotion Wit h coctraot flying for th• .AlF. Mr TJblt. eta.tea tbat he
ho.1 tloWA 'With Mr Ponll on a nmber of' oocaaiona, and h• ooruiclera h1a
to be a Tery atabl• pertonJ completely reliable, an4 not t;i ven to
•t11ght1 or tu.or" .
So• Swmaa17 or lnfont&t1on, 12 September 194'7• Bq !DC.
aubjeot~ •t1u1dentiti•d FlyiAg Objeota• (intemew • AlpbGua O. ?owell) .
Reb.te4 Reports
Prerloua Distribution,
- lone
'
'ftluaticm
Diltr1but1on
- AAF (S oop1ea)
- ADC (2 oop1e1)
or aowce
C
or 1llt'ormat1oll
s

Mr. A. O. Powell 11 a graduate or the ATiation Cadet Flying
Training Program. ha-.1.ng gradua.ted from Marnll l.l'ield , Alabama. With the
AOE!JTS JIO'l'ES t
Class ot ,n. c.
Since graduation.. Irr. Powell ha.a flo,m .for Ptll!. AJHrioe.n
Airway• and. at thi• date, h&a onr ~ , 000 oomm.and pilot houra to hla credit.
Mr . Powell appear, to boa cala, intelligent ind1Tidual, ~ot giwu t o
flights or tan.oy, or eaeilT •waT•~ by what he hae previoualy r~4 in the
ne..,.papere •• reg•rda report• or thi• tn,e. Jtr. Po,rell haa a rear ot publi­
oity and eeemed h•e1tant to enn tell hia atory leat he beoo'IM tM objoot ot
ridicule. llz- Powell was queationed as to the poasibility that what he
aighte4 mi6ht have been a tow target, a pilot b&lloon, or a radioaonio device
uaed for meteorological purpose• • Kr Powell at&ted that he has aeen aumerou,
pilot balloona , radioaonic device• and tc,r targets, while on f l ight•J the
object obaer,..d on thi• flight defhi tel7••• •ot on• ot th••
Evaluati on
Prerloua Distributions
- Rona
of eo uroe
or Wormatio11
C
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Distribution
- AAF (S copies)
- ADC (2 copiea)
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Report on Loofl. "'fflPS Diac"
1>333.5 ID (8 Jul
2nd In1
HQ., ADl DEP'DSB COIOIARD, Kitchel Field, Bew York, 2S JuJ.r 1947.
47
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CollaandiA& General, A.NT Air Forces, lfa•hington ~5, D. c.
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Forwarded tor your intoraation.
FCR TH! COIIU.NDING GENERAL:
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Asst Chiet ot St~t-Intell•
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,ror ■lrml"9hllffl •fk1 Y~~
• fJartfy cloudy end we,m toctayf t.
night end tomorro,w wlttt • few
scattered shower• this aftMnoon.
Hlth today N, low tonltht 70, hlth
tomorrow IO.

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cers Reported
t~,teS, But· Seem
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City Is Baffled By
·- Dazzling Display

Of· Spooky Discs
• TIM stra111e. th1ap tut haT•
been Lil nfaht lkJes naee ..June 25,

o-,er Blrmhapam last nlallt.
On one thtn1 everyone who bu
...._ Ille mystertoua objects acre•
WeN

-tbeJ are round, saucer-lib. After
that. every ,tory differs. Each ol
the hundreds of callers who re-- .A
parted wttnetliq the bafflinl UT )
delllon1tratlou here last nl1ht hacl
a different Yenion of what the7

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lome 1ald the objects -ro
larp, ,ome small. TIiey were mov•
.._ at ll"eat ,peed. Tbe, were 1u.
padecl hl the air. Tbere wu aound
, i . . Witll ~Ir movement.. Tbe7
m"8d nolNleulythrQa,h the blaek
~- TIiey were at ,reat diatance
from the earth.~ bad fallen to
the ,niaDd. They were la perfect
formalloa. Tbq weN collldlDC
with Neb other.
But wbatever the thm,a are that
have aet the nation acot liDce f1nt
reported 12 da)'I aco by a man la
W ' ~ n State, the7 cleflnltelY
were over the Malle City Jut nilbt.
It seem., ID fact, that more Bu,.
minlbam realdenta aaw the objects
tball hl ~ other place.
•
llEPORTS BEGAN comiq hlto
the Aae-B"erald city room atvand
I o'doclt Jut Dlabt. For more tball
a11 lroour thereafter, the place was
bedlam. Tbe switchboard operators
were swamped with calla. Repo~
en, office boy1, copy rwaders evel)'one In the place wu cajled
lllto actJon.
y
Reports came In from Ecqewoocf.
Mountain Brook, Avondale, Soutb1lde, Palrfleld, Pratt Cll7, Wut
End, Central PU$. Beuemer.
Tbere wu fear, exclteme!)t. b.o r­
ror, S;!re~•J~.-..,.. ~~ One

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- Skies
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Altlloqll tbe reporta to1l'lle A,._
Benld lat Dilld ........ off at
aboal t p.m., tMN ...... llul call
ftaa 'a mu at JI, ..,_ .. hd
die ob,lec!ta Oftr. tie IOUth­
Nltern lfftlon. 'fll1I IDOl"lliq, t.bere

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eominl Into Tile News.

)IIJ. WllltelllaedaJDelllllto
Blrmiqbam Nlidnta: "Wa'U do
neryWq U.. Ana, Air Forefl I
empowered to do ,to run down t.be
lll1lterJ ol Ult dllca. Thia tblJII
..... to ..... _... be,olld tbe
)obit of. IIPft1llatla. Blm!t111~m
cu rest u..-ad tbe air bue wW
keep - tbe alert uW tbe .,..
t.ry ls aettfed." •
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matter, .. aid; ~
• Jdill bup,9' lie rnorted.
OUAftft DClTUl&NT of
·• i • -- ,
Uae ~ eeae wbea a mun- _..... 1amee Bala. 1111 Soutll atll
DeN4 IOIM of tba dllCI bad fallft Street, uw tbt'N diael tra....unt
la a raYiM MIi' Avoawood: Ar. lrolll •Mt to welt. Two more were
IIOrier ud ~apb•r wot b lpotted later, ~ b, a ltp&l•
iba ICll9MI UMl folUld IIOtbiq. dlle, u aeta~•1:ua.rec1.
Reeld•ata ol die dlltrW ul4 Ula J . L. Xardua, noo autoa 9tNet.
dlles bad PIINd low and appeared Beaemer reportacl ...uaa "atruae
to ba~ falll9 lD tlaa Ina.
lllhW-- movlq tllrouah Uie 1k1 beBoben c.aaanc;_ Ap,Renld ~ .._.mer aa4'1ted Mouataln.
eGP1 ~ ~
Ilia camera -r11e7 ,.... -••• - - ...... ., lie
wbea tlaa o\aiaeta :,aaed o.er Ilia aald.
• - ·-, --.
re■lddae oa alll Strea and Blah•
• • •
laad A..-n-. Bia deftloped flla "'W1alrllu UIIOUI- were nDC)l'ted
nvealed two rouacl. wldta •Potl oa aeea - Ifaa. Smhi, 1', lal 10th
the black, elole tioaltller, one l•rt- Place, loath. and lllamn Pllaro, 15,
er thaa tM otller. lie aald be laff GI 10tb A v • a a a, 8outb. "We
Ula plctaN a 15-NeoDd expoaure. weren't loold.al for tum," .tbe bon
nva otber penom_,.... with him reported. "We were ataad11 111 tile
wbu tlaa plelure wu made.
yard wben we uw rouD allver
But wltn-■-- aren't needed anr Dathe• clrclllll around. THJ came
lCJlllU' to l)e.ar out raporta of UM one at a Ume at flnt, tho die num­
atralll• demonatratloa. Too~ n., 1lier lDcnlfed. n-, Named to 10
penoU-Cood, aoUd dtbe
ave over the moaatalJl.
aeen the tblnp. In fact, they're
• • •
tblnlrl•I r,t eallblC Ula ahow out at At police beadquuten, Offlcer
Jlunpr Bowl tonllbt, "Tba Dlao- E. E. MeNaal aald reporta ol the
lllbt Opara."
•
dllea MIU at 1:10 p.m. aad CNNd
about ao mlDat91 later,
Scores Of People Report
"Strem of• u;bt t1y1q • • r,.
r - - ; - My-ious Discl,
alow" ware reported . . bJ 11n.
~ ""lJ
Hu. 11. Sockwell. ueo llu4ow
Bnldenta of Eut Lake,
uth- Greaa Aent. SIM la1d 1be
atde, West &ad, Woodla'WJI and ~ lDto Mr y.,-4 u -,c,a u lbe Marci
•mar reported ■eelnl the flylnl the a-.port on the radio. &be ucl
cUaca or aaucara tut DiJbt. One dlae ber baabaad and tiff Mil'bbon aaw
wu reported IND yesterday after- atx of the ~ ftJinl •~
low...
aooe Offr die Warrior River. Th• Bbe utd th-, were tu ala of a
aumber _.D at one time varied.
"'810 Al TA■LI.I"
N1M ol the dlael we.re - n by
-i eallad to flDd out if rm
CoDnla Murdocb, 512 South 10th cru.,,..
Gordon MJN,
Court- "'1'lley -re 101>1 of lllht at UM aald·Mn.
Baaemer Super-Hlab­
.-.MUld the aky," ahe re- way, wbo telapbened TM

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--=~abeand.laaabud aD4 tMlr - - ....
tbe ''balll of tin" u tbe7 pre­
~ 17 over die Central Park A1r(Rlrt
pared to 1et lDto ttaelr ear
U"8L
after a vlait with Mr. and Mn.
°'1! realdent ol Bllll Lab. be• ' GordOD Buab at Brtptcm, t .
tween t :IO and 10 tut lllCbt.
She aa1d the flub u,hta.
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a,,,,roxim,.tel;v- 250 """''-="11 f l y ~ time f\S "Oilot --nd Armor er Ou.nner have
the fol loving t~tement to mA'lce {"Onct'!rning the 11.T>nearence of "1'lyin,v; D1 acs"
in the Ticini ty of ~irminghrun, Aln.bama.
At 204" hours, 6 July 1Cl47 • :hilo ! ·r-,s e"'tiDP' si.,~er ot my residence
l\t 1354 Meedow Lane, Gre-?n Acres, Birmingham, U/'\bama, rrr::, next door nei.ghbor,
1-lr. 'Herman H. Sookvel 1 • c~llP.d for Me to come to th.e front ~oor the.t there w PrP
cooe "J'l.yi~ 'T)iace" outside. Im.~ ediPt~ly I went out in thP front y .. r~ to
observe the objects. The objects ~'One"red to th.e '<l'e11t of 'Birming'·e.m trAveUng
in~ South .,~stern r•r~~t •on . They """'ll)eared to be n~~rorlmntely ?()()() fe~t
abovi, the horizon t"t .. lu; d."!gree angle from 'flhere ! w.. s st9ni.,1v "' t n n un­
eatimated ~istAnce PY~Y~ The objects r'l")ne!'ll"ed to be ~,,nroxtm~tely t vo (?)
feet in diameter , roun~ in ehA~e, "!)roduollag A ~im P,low of 11,-,bt rnd trpvnli~
at ~n est1mate1.aneed of five (5) to six (6) h.undr~d miles ner hour .
The object• or obj~ct An"Oe· red to be trAveling in P definite ore rather thAn
straight ~nd AB soon c~ one WPS out of ~ip,ht /'\nother woul d An~ear be~i d
it, but not nlw,va in the s me -oath. ! q p w one th~t SPemed to come atr~i£ht
u~ . The view of where it cl'tllle f r o~ w~s obstructed by~ nearby house; ~nd
when 1t r"l'IChed the ltl t i tude of A'!>""'l"oximately 2000feet, it •tarted off in
the •~e direction ~a tne oth~ra. I did not Pt any time see ADY more than
one at the time and even though there could haTe been on _y o .e, 11\V -•~•n"~!
belief 1• that there wore eeven (7) to ten (1~). 'l'he Discs were silent ,ind
aTI'?eared to be col!J"Ooaed of e einr,le lir.bt.

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St...ff Serg eant, 1lA 14 153 972

Subscribed Pnc'I sworn to b,fore me this 7th ~,r:r of July 1q47.

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than titteen (lS) miles.
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From South, heading ?n,1E (approxiantely 30° )
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High velocity; stated to be taater th~n a
conventional airplane.
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Description :
The observers saw a light which at tirot appeared
to be a ,hooting star or airplane. It appeared
again, and a m1111ber ot intermittant fiashe• were
seen tor a period of appro,:imately three (3) mi.nut.a.
The nashea were reddish in color. Observers aa14 it
was not a tailing star because it did not appear aa
such; nor was it an airplane, l>ecause ~ s~wee
too abrupt and the?"e was no noise ot a motor.
10.
Reported by:
Miss Patricia .Abbott, (Nffl'foundla'¥! 'National) Ooverment
&aployee and Lt. Halllllakar, t:S.vigator and Public Relat­
ions Of'ticer.
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General
The intormants (noted in Par.10) were waltd.ni when they
noticed a peculiar reddish light. Both Miss Ahl;\ctt and
Lt. Hamaker stated that at first., they thought it was
a 1'alli,ng atar, ·but it left no streak. It appeared
again; they thought 1 i micbt be a plane flying at. n
very high altitude. Alter obeerri..'lC i ta am:>9Uffl"a,
they concluded, because or the silence (no hum ot mot.er)
and abrupt darts ot the U g.lit., it, was defi nately not
Ill\ Airplane .
Neither Iii•• .Abbot.t nor l,t. Hammaker bwl
seen anythlre; like i t be!Ol"e. ·
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Captain, Air Corps,
Intelligence Of'ficer.
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s 1388th A.AF' !U, llBC, ATLD', ATC . Harmon Field, Newfoundland.
: F1.yi.ng :lisc or other ajrborne object.
Approx six (6) miles SSW of Harmon Field.

20CI0/7., 10 July 1947

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Altitude
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Weather
: Clear, Scattered CUmulus 8 - 10, 000 ft.
Heading
: N?lE on horizontal course .
Speed
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: Very high velocity.
Shape & Size: Circular like a 1'8eel, estimated to be s ame s i ze as a C-54
as s een f'ron 10, 000 ft.
Translucent or Silvery, l eft ~ 1Jl uish Black tra il a pprox
10 . Color
15 miles l ong.
ll. Fhotograpl.s: ?.r. Robert w. Leidy reported that he took two .!2) Kodachrome
snap shots of the trail.
12. Reported By: ~T. John N. !'erhman, TWA. mechanic; '.r. John W• .toodruft,
PAA rtechanic; and l.'r. Robert E. Letdy, PAA mechanic report,'9<1
the above facts to the I ntelligence Offic er on 15 July 1947.
A Flash e port was T.tX ed t o : Action copy Conmandine
General, Hq. ATC, Attn. Asst. Chief of Staff , Intelligence.
I nfo copies: Comr-anding Generals Hq. ATLD and Hq. NBC
13. General
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~ister's t'erh.,nan, Vfoodruff, and Leidy ~ e enroute !'ran
Stephenville Crossing to Harmon Field at the time of the
sighting. 1:•r. Vloodruff was the first to sea th!t Disc, it
a ppeared t o rent or split the clouds thru which it passed
and le.ft a Eluish Black trail approx. fitteen (15 ) miles .
l ong behind it. The trail was similar to the afterglmr or
a powerful landing light or search light beam after it is
suddenly switched off . lhe object maintained a straight and
horizontal course 11ccording to Mr. Mer tunan and~ . Woodrutt,
Mr. ·Leidy stated it a ppeared to be on a great curved course
on a horizontal plane. The object disappeared into the
Morth Northeast. ~ . Leidy sqs he took two (2 ) Kodachr0ffl9
Photographs or the trail. The film has been transmitted
to the Asst. Chi ef of Staff, Intelligence, Newhundland
BMe Command for processing.

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Intelligence Officer

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Organisation:
1388th AA F RAse Unit
AP0 864, ~/o Postmaster, New York, N.Y.
2.
Sighting
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Flying Dj sc or other airborne object.
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Place
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Codroy, N~wroundland, 59co3 • W Long.; 1,7o50, N Lat.
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Ti.Jae
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OOJOZ hours, 11 July 1947.
5.
Altitude
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Appro"ld.mately 6.000 feet .
6.
Wellther
1. Headi1'g
. Clear; at dusk.
. From northwest heading eastward.
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Speed
. Very hieh velocity.
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ShAre & Stze:
10. Color
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11. Reported by~
Disc shat>eli; was reported as being the she of a
barrel-head, ~inner-plate arvt. ~ize of a plane
that is flyL~g high. The trail i a ve t he whole
object the appearance of a cone.
Flame color ed with a trail of a lighter name ~nlor.
Mr. John Legge, Mr. lb. Ev&ns and Albert Samm.9 of
Codroy, N~wfoundland.
12. General
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Mr. Legge and Mr. Evans were standing 011tside Mr. Legge 's
store when they both sighted the o bj ec+.. Both "len stated
t hat the d i sc was very bright with an after- r,1.ow which
made the object look like a cone. It was a very clear
night. In s!)ite of the high velocity of the fiyin g
object, they said they ~ould not possibly have mistaken
it for a plane or a r ~lling star. Beside s the two Men,
the object ffllS sighted by Albert Sam:ns; he rP-portert what
he had seen t.o his mother. Mrs. Samms stated t hat Albert
was in no way a larmed about it, he w~s alor.e and on hi s
way hC1mo when he sighted it, arxl watched it llhile it wae
in s i ~t . '-ll)ert was quite c onvinced fran the color and
behaviour of the object th at it was not a plane, but
de!'inately sa:ie !'lytng objPJct.
The inforinant, Vr. Legce, is believed to be reliable .
H'i is ·a man of approxim11.tely .forty; has had c onsiderable
experience as f oreman ot B•1chan3 l!ir,e, Newfoundland, where
he was in charc c of three hundt-ed m~n. During the war,
Mr. Legee was si mamber of a civilian volunteer Air
D-,uction Corps. With that >, c kg:round, Vr. Legge stAted
that he felt sure thlit the object he had seen was eorne-/
thing new which he had never seen before.
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Final Report of Si(1lt ing

General cont'd ,

~lbert Sann• 1s a t w~l•~ year old boy . He was alone
when he saw the fiying objer.t, he wa::: very denr,1 te
il1t1.t ·, e no.ti never seen anything 1 i\r.e it bef r-re.
Hi e
mot.her, Mre . Semnu,, ia the Pret Mistre s s ot thi- t ~wn,
and after hee.rinr; Al bert' :: d•er:ri~tion, felt that it
antnrered to the deec..iption of a •Flying Disc" . Ur .
Legge reported h i s -.ight in~ shortly afterw&rd s to Mrs.
S&IT"Tls b .. ,. .,, se hP was sure it shoiild be IT'&de known to
her in order th11t tt i!- i ncident nrl ght be r ep,,rteri ~·
t.clegram t!fflle<\:1 at,-,~ .
There wa~ one other sight,~ c repo rt.~ from A 11 vqr
War d en at South Br ancl- . The !!\an ~0•1ld not be con­
t ,1,c t,,,ct at time or inter view,. with other partiea.
~owev~r, a secor,d-hand rlescrlption or his ,nghting
WA!' obt'll n811, and it a greed with th e siv}ltings at
Codrey.
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Captain, Air Cor ps ,
Intelligenr.• 0 ficer .

eaNFIDENTfAL
FitlAL REPcm' OF SIGHTING
1.
Organization:
1J88th AAF Bass Unit
APO 864, c/o Pos t."118ster, N~ York, N.I.
2.
Sighting
Plying Disc or other Air borne Obj ect.
J. Pl&ee
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On bo&rd Steamship ltBUROec>" enroute from Sydney,
Mova Scotia to Port &CY Basque~, Pfewtomdland,
ahout one hour out h-o:n Sydr-~.
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OOlSZ 20 July 19u7.
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s. Alttt,ude
• JOO otr t.tte h,.,rbori e.t an est!.,.ated quart, • mile range.
6. Weather
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Cl.ear am dark.
7.
Heading
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lfNB (J(1-) East, ,:,f True Horth) on hor1Mntal plane .
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Speed
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H!gn nlocit7, stated to be teeter than a tr!lc~r bull -,t .
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Descrip+,ion s
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Reported by:
OlserYers did. not see u,e o-.,je~t, thf!tY saw 1 te n.ashes
am all ~our t'hservers agref:li there W1tre rour (h) or
fiT"' (S) nashP~ approxi-nately one (1) secon:' apart
arrl ~uidistant. 'nle tlAshes were said to be a1lnry
to reddish i n eolo~, an~ were described. by two ob~erv9rs to he like t.hoee or a F!rs Fly ,:,nl_y larger and at.
,:,q-.tal intervals, an~ did not look like a sh~ot!n~ star
or airpl&M .
lfessrs Maitlluxi, L11.rldn, Do~s and H•ilton ot
Hamilton, Metcalfe and Kansas City Brfdg9 Companies
wfiich concern i• doing the c-mstructiOD at Haraon '1.eld.
11.
General
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Tt\e tour gentlemen (noted in Par.lo) and Capta.1.n Gullage,
Mae♦,er ot thP "Burgeo•, were standing on the starboard
deck, and •• the Captain was trying t 'J Jescribe a pt"erloua
Bighting, he ■aw the tla ■hes; the other tour gentlemen
al.so eaw th• "~ deacrib4td her91n, and believed that it
,ras not a aeteorite or airplane N9C&UH ot its ■peed,
color, and ev.,~ spaced discharge, or nashes.
Captain Gullage to1d the tour e"lntl....n that he h'ld Hat
t h~ same thing at approxima tely the SUl't time and location
(ehlp'• position) on the eTening ot 15 Jlil.y 1947, except
at that tt,.,.,, the object or tlallhee were tra•elin~ tast er
and frequently lhangin~ enurae (he ■aid it chang-1 cour■e
ahruptl7 sevf.rnl times) and was headed genera lly to the
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Fi.Tl<.). ReP<?r~ of Si ghting:
Genoral c ont' d
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The Captain also told the four gentlP"Uen
th=. t he 110 ~ willi ng tr, make a complet~ report
if the infor mation !s desired for official
purposes.
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Captain, Air Corps
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Interrogation of John B, Nohruen, Jr |
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Cem you describe the trail?
It wae dlueish black in coler, very easily distingaished from the
dine sky. A diesel exhaust would de similar te it,
Wes the trail fan shaped?
Bo it was more or less = band across the cky in © straight path.
Did it make a meise?
Be noise,
What went on in the car when you sighted the object?
We stopped the car snd got out and locked at it.
One of
hed a camera end tock a photograph of the trail that the
left.
What was the name of the man who took the photograph!
Rovert Leidy.
De you know what type of film Mr Leidy was using?
Kodachrome, 3 delieve.
De you know whether Mr, Leidy cay the Disk or object?
I don't believe se.
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STATEM."". !iT OF MR. J OHB P . LE'zGE, CORDEOY, NE/,'FOUN.JL.:'JiD .
TA}~ BY
l4~CEDES BU3.KE OF '"'HE INT~ IGE:lCE "'FiICE, HARMO;I FI~LD, pw]'OUND­

LAND.

17 July 1947.

At approximately 10 o'elook in the e•ening of 10 July 1947
I was etanding by my store door; I happeo~d to l ook up and saw
wnat appeared t~ be a "FLYING SAUC~?.". I t definately was not a
ah•oting star: I'd e ~en s e•eral stars shoat before, but ne•er like
thial aor was it an a i roplane, it was too "lit up" and tra~eling
at t•• great a speed . It was n't an air0plan e on fi re bec ause it
wo uld have fallen in the ~ater . It ~as a niee elear night, no
e l ouds, it ~as jus t getting dark . I would say it was tra•eling at
the rate of a shooting star but mueh •loser. I'd es:y r ~ugbly at
6, 000 feet. It was visibl e fo r about fifteeD (15 ) seoonds. It
•~e from the North West beadin g East~ard . The oirole looked to
be about the s ize of a barrel head, and th~ trail behind looked
to be about f ifteen (16) feet long. ~he trai l behind the dis•
made the ~bo l e objec t look l ike a eone. Another thi ng that makes
me feel sure i t wa~n• t a- shooting atar is: a shoot i ng s tar usually
lea~es a temporary streak , this objeot I saw left no streak only
the one that appeared to tra vel behind the circle wbieh looke d like
an after-glow . The oirele was a bright re d , nearest I could des­
eribe it ~ould be t he e olor o~ a flame, the after-glow(eone- s haped)
waa a £sint er shade. What I s aw las t Thursday night resemble d a
shooting star in no way ~hatsoe•er. There was only one.

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JOHN P.

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STATEMENT OJ MR. WM. EVANS, CORDROY'' ?fEWP'OUNDLABD. TAKEN BT
MERCEDES BURKE OF THE INTELLIGEBOE OFFIOEi HARMOB FIELD, •n­
FOUBDLAND. 17 Jul! 1947 •

At approxi■ately 10 •'•look in the eTentnc of 10 July 1947,
I was standing eut s i de Kr. Legga's store tal king with him. W•
both aaw this thine dash aeroae the elq. I oouldn't be aoeurate
about the direotiona. If it was a shooting sta r , I'd neYer seen
one as large befor•• and it waa 1112eh brighter than an,thing I'Ye
ever aeen i n the sq. It looke d t o be a r ound object , I eou.ldn't
say it was anything e lse but round; it •had a tail on it wbieh
ahowed yellowish, but not as bright a s the oirele which app eared
and neares t I could des oribe it would be sort of red a nd yellow.
The streak behind, I would aa7, was little oTer a yard long; the
e irele looked t• be about the si&e •fa larce dinner plate. It
went so fast, it was hardly 1o s ight before it disappeared. I
eoul d nGt giYe any idea of t he height; all I • s.n say is it ~as
muo h elos er than a s hooting st ar. and travelling at a great spee d .
Wbate~er it was it wa s flying through the air; it wasn 't jus t
, a streak aoro s e the sq . To me it was n't in any way like a
shooting star, and I am sure it was n't an airoplane. I •alled it
a "FLYING SAUCER" bee auee it seeme d exaotly lik e what we had b een
hearing ,eo mueh about on the radi o .

Witness:

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ME.RC.El.lES BURKE OF TRr! INTELLI GElW2 OFFICE, Hnd1Oll F'I .b:LD NE~ J'OUDLA.BD. 17 July 1~947 .
Last Thursday night I was out by our hous e, I happ e ned to
look up and saw •hat I thought was an airoplane. It was f l y i ng
at the height of a plane t hat is flying high. The n I t hou g ht
it leoke d s trange f or an airoplsne, be~aus e it was all lit up
ao bright, pla.nea do hav e a light or t wo. but this thi ng was Ter7
bright - sort of a bright reddish yellow . I saw it only f or a
miAute because it was travel l ing at a teriff i• peed . It shot
out of sight so quiokly I thought i t s trange i f it fia e 8Jl airop ­
lane. TllU, I remembe r e d "r.hat I'd been hearing about " .r1l,JI ND
SAUCERS" I ran in a nd told my mother.
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bav in ~ hea r ~d a b out " r'LYI NG , AUC~hS " and he thon~nt that's wh,-t
i t must haT,- o~ ~n.
I 1 ue,tion~d him: he eoid it c ou ld n't bnT~
been a pl ane betBuee a PlEnft ~ou ) on' t shoot down }jve tn~t did ,
besid e s it ~as t oo "lit up"
Mr. Le~~e rep ~rted tbft ee~e thing to me in order tbe.t I ~• iht
rep n rt s a me to St. J~h•'a in th~ morh : n g.
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NEWFOUNDLAND CONSTABULARY

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STATION Grazd Falla t
DATE Jw.y l3t.h. 1.947 • ,

SUBJECT Rea- St.ran.• obJecta aeen tl.,yina over Gram
Falla on n16iht. ot July 9t.b. at. approx.

u, l§ •94 AetP,

Sira

I reapect.1'\ll.l.r N vort tor 1our ~oraat.lon that, on

·ednea4a¥ ni&ht.1 the 9t.b. inat.e I UT1Ye4 boae troa
du\y at. approx. ll..30.

tJS)oD UTiYal at. boa• I Joined my wit•, m¥ mot.her-in-law
and Mr. John Jae.Iman a reaident ot s t.. John'• and tr1e;".l
ot tJie t•il.r, who were oitt.!nB on the tront. atepa ot
U. bouae. I wu a aked b' ,q wit• U I bad aun t.he
•t1¥1Da aauaera" I t.boU& t ah• waa Jokina and replied
that. I ba4 •••n nothiDt, tlyln£. Jacban and rq aot.ber­
in-law then told •• that th•1 bad r eally •••n tour obJ eota­
tl¥1D& 1D an eaaterl,y direction Juat. before l ani•e4•
I aaked t.hea to deacriN what. t.h•1 bad •••n• JacblaD aaicl
t.bat tour rou.n4 abaped ti&u.r•• bud paaaecl oyerhead at a
terrific apeed and nre tl,y~ aide bt •tde.

On l.ook~ a)Q'warda qain rq wile, J ackllall 1 and myaelt1• __
• •• a obJect. which I would deaorille aa bein& a hug• J•'-'-r

tlah tlaab acroaa t.he the •Ir¥• It. wollld M '1U.ic.u\. \0
determine it.a helgbt .ind apeed owina \o t.be brief period
it waa Yiaible• .1l. 1 a colour alao would be bard \o aa_, 1
but. there a...ed t.o be pboapborua ~lo• ,ltou\ it. 9 lt
waa round 1D abape and a bout. th• a1s• of a barrel bea41
1 t appeare4 to M fl.¥~ 1n a rock~ aot.ion.
Thia air 1 ia about. a ll I can• 1 a bout. t.he matt.er , ..
cont.inued to oaan th• • kt tor a bout.• halt bcNr but. no
• ~ of t.hea were •••n ~•in.
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NEWFOUNDLAND CONSTABULARY
STATION Grand Falie,
a oe "DATE July 13th, 1947. .
SUBJECT Rez strange objects seen f. over Grand
‘ Falls on night of July e at approx.
Sirs
I respectfully report for information that on
road DEQ PTS ft 70 tegen te
duty at approx. 11.30. -
Upon arrival at home I joined my wife, ay natherohs- les
and Mr, John Jacknan a Feeigent of St. John's and friend
of the family, who were wa on the front a oft
Stlying saucers” I’ thought phe es denests lied
saucers she was rep
that I had seen nothin, SF, pce and ay mother=
in-law then told se ie seen four objects
flying in an easterly direct: Rion dant’ ore I arrived, -
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I asked thea to boat A what ree bed had seen. Jackman said
that four round shaped f. Rye} overhead at @
terrific speed and were ide by ¢ide.
On looking skywards again ay wifey vache and ayee
saw a object which I Could a desert) i huge meee agli
fish flash across the the ccrite would ve
determine its hdight and spe * owing to the wrist por
it was visible. it's colour also would be hard to oo.
but there seemed to be a phosphorus glow about it, 4
Gab poend 8 abace det ahaa @ eize of a barrel head,
it appeared to be flying in a rocking motion.
This sir, is about 011 I can sa about the matter, we
con’ So ee ee jut @ half hour but ne
atan of them were seen again,
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Pr011 detailed atud7 ot report.a aeleowcl tor their iapreaaion ot
veracity and reliability, aenral oonoluaiona bave been tormed,

. (a) ThJ.s •tlying saucer" a1 tuation 1a not all imaginArl or seeing
too 11Uch in soae nat~ phellOllenon. Somtbing is really tlyina around.

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(b) lAok ot topside inquiries,
when compared to the prompt and
deaanding inquiries that have originat.d topside upon toraei- events,

give acre than ordinary weight to tbe p6eaibilit7 that this ia a d011teatic
project, about which the President, ~to. lmow.
(a) Whateftl" the objeota are, this much can be said of their physical
appearance,
1. Tbe s'lll"taoe of these object.a 1a •tallio, indicating a metal.lie
akin, at least.
2. When a trail 1a obeened, it 1a lightl7 colored, a Blue-Brown
base, that 1a aillilar to a rocket engine•a exhaust. Contrary to a rocket
ot the solid type, one obeervation i!ldioates that the tuel ~ be throttled.
which would i!ldicate a liquid rocket engine.
J. As to shape, all obeervationa state thut the object 1a cireular
or at leaat elliptical, flat on the bott011 and slightl.7 domed on the top.
Tbe a11e estimates place it somewhere near the size ot a C-54 or a Coastellation.
4. Soae reporta describe two tabs, located at the rear and
syaet.rical about the Xli:m axis ot flight motion.
5. Plights han been reported, trom three to nine of them, tlying
goocl·formation on each other, with speeds alfllya above JOO knot,e.
6. The discs oscillate laterill7 while flying along, which could
be snaking.

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CONFIDENTIAL
HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Ottioe or the Ass i stant Chi ef or Start, A- 2
Intdl1ge noe
"HAnil t on Fiel d, Ca lifornia
4AFDA
353 .6/1208- I
SUBJECT:
TO:
25 August 1947
I nveat i iation of Fl ying Disc .
Headquarters, Army Air fo rces ,
AC of AS- 2
ATTE11TIO.r:
as hin(ton 25 , D. C.
1. The attached true copy of the lette r or
• F. " • Johnson of
Po rtland , Ore gon , we.1 r e ceived by this off icer 22 Auf'Ust 1947.
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2 . Your attention i s invited to t he si milRri ty of st at ement by
Johnson and ·.:r . Arno ld.
3.
Thia l otter is boinr r eferred thi a date t o t he Spec i a l Agent
I n Char r;o , F~I , San 1-'rancisco , tor any 1nvest1get1on thev may care t o
make .
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Cy or ltr f r F. 1 . John son
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DONALD L. SPRIU
Lt . Co lone l, r.sc
AC of S, A- 2
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CONFIDENTIAL
PORTLAND, OREGON , August 20th 1947

Lt. Col. Donald L. Springer , Assistant Staff
Sir . Saw in the port land paper a short time a go in r egar ds to
an article in regards to the so cal led flying disc having any basis
of tact. I can say am a prospector and was in the t.! t Adams district
on June 24th the day Kennet Arnold or Boise Idaho claims he saw a
formation of flying disc. Andi saw the same flyin h objects at about
the same time. Having a telescope with me at the time 1 can asur e you
they are real and noting like them I ever saw before they did not oaas
verry high over where I was standing at the the time, pl obl y 1000 ft .
they were Round about 30 foot in dimater tapering sharply to a point in
the head end in an oval shape. with a bright top surface. I did not
hear any noise as you would from a plane. ilut there was an object in
the tail end looked like a big hand of a clock shifting fro~ side to
side li~e a big magenet. 'f,iere speed as far as i know seemed to be
gr eater than onything I ever saw . 1's~ veiw I got of the objects t hey
were standing on edge Banki ng in a Cloud.
Yours Respectfully

/s/

F. H. Johnson
106 ?:o. \'fest la t Ave
Port land, Oregon

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PORl'LAiID, O'lSOvN
30,JuJ.¥ l.947 .

un 30 July 19u7 l!.r .tdehnrn ttan.1dn, 83u il. li . Siq)son Str.t,
Por.tland, Oregon m s inten ewed by this agent and s tated in substance as
follows :
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l(y' name is R:1.charo. Rankin. I arn47 yearo ol.d and have !town since
I i':'3S nineteen years old. I t.1.nst soloed in m a1:r cr:t.tt in 1919. I hlve 1'1.own
over all the western parts of the United st& es many t.ilm!s 8.lld have capped
all or \.ho ,, ster n ~ of the Unite l States during the years before the
la.to war for the US Forest Service. I m:i .tam.liar with almost every part o!
the -r.cs tarn United States. During a great part ot re:, life I have dcne stunt
flying for air shows a.nd various other types of aeronautical. e.:ichibit1ons. MY'
brothor was 11Tex11 Rankin who was quite well known in both c1V1llan and 1'1.l.1taJ;r
f~ng circles r or maey yea.rs before his death and during the late 11ar ran
t housands of nyln.; cadets through primary training school.a ormod and oper­
aMd by h1r.l. To Jate I lnve acco:upl.i.shed 7000 hours in tho air as pilot of
both civilian and !.:il.i.t.aey aircra.rt. I a:i 1'911. acquainted Tri.th most articles
that one -woul d seo in the air o.nd I feel that I an well qualified to say
when I see :irticles flylng through the air, although I \TOuld not attempt to
say that I ac infallable and state thD.t I could definitely identify every ,
object that might be nying through th:S air. The following 1s . an account of
what I sa-., on 1h June 1947 frcc the :,or~ or my home at 1 -0. SOllth •u• st,
Bakersfield, ca.lit ornia.

~t appro:d.motely 1200 no.:in on the lu of June I was ly1.ne in ~he
.front yard 0£ rx:J hoce . Ibero '"'3S a lad ncminc t he la-m at tro tl:::le . I l ooi::c
up into t he sky and saw ten art:.cles fiylnc fran tte South to th Hort\ at what
I -ould ju~ c to be 6500 rt. ':'l-c obje c ts were fiyins ~ approx:1.rl3toly T1h.._'lt I
r.oul::1 jud('.;e to be 350 ;o.l.e,; per hoar . A.S I lu '\l? s tated b fore , I h.:lve t~one
er.ti.te a lot of r:l7ip work for t he OS Forest service . : 4 :;tinctly remember t..'l\ot
-it the t ~ I sa,.. ho arti cles I mcn~1oncrt !.t to t.ho la l who ~ -::iom.ne the
]ay;n at tho time . I tol l t1•: l.."l< that the object3 were in alt probab:llty
some sort of A;J:-rJy or !:avy test plnnc s i'ro., the ne ~°b'J test cantors on tho
"'eserts o~ Southern Cal..if'omia. ::aving quito a kncr.vlcdce o! aircraft in
:eneral I o.tte:-,pte 1 to c~ lain to the l..a l r:10 11:.n.:; th'? J....;m th.:t. thl obj t s
.-:ere irob ab~ on s cne sort of tra.:.n.:.nr: ':'\l ,3.'..o:'l fer either t.he Ar11y or ?!avy.
lid not cive the s r;htcst • thoucht to aeyt•lint; but t h:it t he
At th~... tw
object a m?re so,e .,or or te ::;t :hip f or th e ~rrncnt ..ervices . ~e ol)';,..ct...
reser.m eii the pictures that I haw seen of ,.ho .::F5U-11 t.he o =.;. llerl 11Fly-.i.nc
?lap). ck Clfjax that Uv- ··.avy : - t cs• .:.J'\S• .\ fte r :..he objec t-s di sap e.:irad I
p roce"'d.. i,to the houst. "'.1\1 ·~, ny noon '"lC'l •••t nr.roxlr-..ntely lLlS ! . nt
back into the • ard to .,it .md lie in '..h -.? sh~1e . At t his timo tho obj~ t.s ro­
ap:'IC".U'el .:;o:~ rro-:a S.Jrth to South, al t'1ou.=·1 t '1is tioc th~r ~ ~!'o only s even
o£. "'.re articles. '\'fh~n I firs t ~'\- the ott.ct nal •,on objects :.he:, , re rJ.yi.J\:
in a •vn f'ornation W' t}l one o :)ct s e.c,... inc1y star-..,li"!: in the rear or t hr
f or: t.:.on. W'-.!?~ t~ ot:e :: ~.. a ?r-Cr:ied :e secon:i -1.oe ti,ey were t.:.11 ·n thn
rtV fa-11n l UCl -ilt''OU::h there r.as onl:, seven c:! the
ject '\..., t · -r ~ • .:me . I
re~f'!:'."bc:- ± t hi::. t ime that
tol1. t 1c ad, U'\ o m s ::;till o r ·.::tn.,. on tlc lar.n,
tll8t ~b.'.l',~ ~~.rce of tho objc cts ha1
ce ded b::.ck t,o thfl.i!" b.? o on ~ rt· ffcrcnt course .
actually • '•"'!U:}.t t'1_-. t, t~ "'l'a:J · " C.:l e, ·"vlt too ot er •.hroe
object.,. hdi3 . ,rob~ly con'! - c'• ~,, hd r b.., -c on the other "iie of tho n~t:l • s
!'ro:l 3aker -!i el ~. .. , :. or o 1 -i..,cr .,.,:, en I read o :...r ·en e ll' .lr.10
c ~ -.lnc
that ho h.i.l seen artic,.os fl:,in!: t,hrou,ch t.h a:r o"1Cr t.h.. ~ :. ~·e " 0.1!'\~itw

~ I r..U.Md tba.t the aniGJ/N that I saw ~ tr obah=tle .... ,._,• •
I •s still r.lllotant. to •ntS. tld.• to ~ Wil#nc that
would pib_ab~ eq t.-t. I was Ol'U7• After eoaltae I llellticmid tm 1act
to the
edltor d t.bl fl()Ngonian•, a Port~ Ol"egon hWapllpi!I•-• At W.a t.1ae I in Portland tor tie 1"'a&i.nder of tale .._r. The nnlts t1 U. oormn,•U. .
with the editor ot ·tiae paper i1 p11t. tort.al in t.be ~ - - ~
&rt.iol.e.
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I fully' re~• that 11111 1s a broad atateme~~1n view ~ Eot;
th& there !as been a, aach publioity t
t e ,at. forth ln ftrlOll.9
papen or the count.rr. I aa d a , ~ ll1nt in eT.-y respect am I a■ t!
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al.though I cannot ..,- from wblre tbq came or to 1b ere thq wn loinc• I say
what. I lan aid with no idea ot publiait)r or J)ff9onal gata.

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30 .,~ 1947

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. Of Odd Aircraft
More reports ol "flyln& flap,
jacka" turned 11p Wedllesday,
one -from no le.a than Dick
Rankin, brother of the late Tex
Rankin, and blmlelf an expe­
rienced pilot of more than. 7000
boun' tlyln& time.
Rankin, who i.w recovering
from an old back injury r~
celved in an automobile acci­
dfflt, came to PorUand over
the week end to apend the 11um ­

mer. He saw the "allver ca u­
cers" over Bakerlfield, Cal.,
J u ne 23, while lying on the
l awn run batblns, he tol d Th~
Oregon ian.
"I hesitated to 1, y much
about them," R.lnkl.n ·aald, " un•
t1l I noticed all the hulJabaloo
in th e papers. I punled over
their 1tran1e ahape tor a while
arid JinaUy concluded~bat they
were the navy's new- Xl'SU-1
flying flapjackl!, wblch Ille thin
and ro u nd , with twin propellers
and ,tubby tail."
Oaly Oaa XFIU-1 Built
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turer have announced officia l•
1 Jy tha t only one such machine
wu built and that It never left
Connecticut.
"ThHe planes were flying
hl&h, maybe 9000 feet, and fa ir •
Jy fut, about 300 or 400 mile•
an hour. I first counted ten of
them In formation , iolng north.
Abou t 2:15 P . M. UM!y r eturned
on the rever,ie course, headed
110uth. But there were only sev•
en In the formation.
• "They were not weav in.c or
bobbln,c tn formaUon I couTd n 't
make o ut the number or loca•
tlon o f their propellera and
couJtln't d btlngulth any w in.«•
or tall. They appeafed almowt
round. They looked li ke pie- 1
lures of the na~•• ftylna flap.
jack," Rankin 1ald.
R.ankJn, who plans to ,rpenrt
the aum mer her, at 8i44 N . E.
Simpson street, h1 now able to
re.um" a little fl ying for fun ,
but not comme rcially. he 11ald.
He now operate1 a 1trln1 of
autG rourta. ,rpendln,c h l1 win•
lffl at P•lm Springs.

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TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, FRIDAY, AUGUST 15, 1947 Member of
Heads Up, Folks! The Dises Are Flying Again
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SiDE view BOTTOM VIEW END VIEW fy
This is an artist's conception of the flying dise that A. C. Urie saw | sides, and could well be the inspiration for something new in women:
wweeping through Snake river canyon six miles west of Blue Lakes | hats, such as a “flying saucer” creation, (Drawing by Vic Goertgen-;_
>| Franch. It seemed to be rate yey by jets ree a fiery soe on both staff oe
aiine Seaces Rinoried Biachine Dawn Canyon
At 1,000 Miles Per Hour; Two Others Are Seen|
By JOUN BROSNAN jthe fa ing objects the nation , scription of the ft
ne Magic Valley and the|thas yet produced lt
tart to let go of The flying saucer Urie saw was | 10
« under a) skimming along through Snake river T
tw oh at a height of about 75| the
y men et at 1p. mt, Wednesday. At 9:30 | trout
on on the mystery|a. m. the same day, L. W. Hawk- | down
iptions of discs they
ig discs
m and his son, Keith, 8, ar
n by ) come conce
Billy, | laying them, and ha
toward the river to see
obtained a close-up view of | all
ying saucer as it passed by the 1
atl p.m. Aug. 13 got
ke river canyon at a height
‘Twin Falls county commis-|of about 75 feet from the canyon
mner_and former county sheriff | floor. 1 would
ida sid
of about 300 fee a
with the thing.” Urie con-
“Two of my boys, Keith
estimate the speed | and Billy, were below me and they
from Filer, also saw two circular | at about 1,000 miles per hour.”
view at & distance,
nost on &
From A C. Urie, who ope
saw it at about a 45-degree
Auger Falls Trout farm six | objects soaring aiong & great| Urie explained that the incident | a They both got a bottom and
west of Blue Lakes ranch in| height near Salmon dam 40 miles | occurred while the two boys were|a side view, and we were all looks
ver canyon, came perhap
southwest of Twin Falls |coming across the river
t detatied account of one ¢
Here is Urie’s eye-witness de-| north side in a boat, He bh
m the
be- |
ing at it from the south side of the
(Continued on Page & Column 6)

Saucer’ Seen
Flying Down
Snake Gorge

nood,”” Ur nued
“The n fioor
p and down over the
lows at a speed ind
*\type of control faster than
eflexes of It ts opin
it is guided by instrum
be powered by atomic energy
made je notse—just a
S-Wei-s-h as it passed b; |
Urie described the size as about
feet long by 10 feet high a
10 feet wide, ving it an oblong |
shape. It might be described as look- |
ing like an ed p te or
ed straw hat that had
Dressed
was, Urie said that
vinced that there was sot
ng to this flying saucer situation,
T know a number of
have also seen them and I know]
jthat they're ust imagining |
something or trying to get their
names in the paper.” Urie com-/
mented, D
| “Ido know that it scared the boys
and made me feel pretty uneasy,”
he added.
| _ Tracing down a rumor that County
| Commissior Hawkins had seen an
junusual object in the air on the
sime day as Urie's experience. the
Times-News called him at his Filer
home.

I did.” he replied w
have to admi
along un
it with my own eyes. I can't
|what It was, but T can say
something in .
Hawkins related that
Salmon dam Wednesda:
a sound resembling
motor caused him to look
and there he saw two circu
Jects that reflected light, Tr
a great speed
higher than most airplanes

this, he declined to
except to say. “There's

on, however.
closely to those of
undreds of persons who reported
seeing flying saucers after Kenneth
Amold, Boise business had
t the deluge by
upon nine dise-}
he was flying in
Washington
fer, the nation became tn-
hat mace
age Twin
cause a mild xensa-
a model fiving
9 a local x
July 10. This was subseuently
vealed as a hoax. following inve
sation by the arn FBI
Thereat t er rep
tapered off into a few scattered in-
ents unt stion was re-
ed by
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llar ~partma.nt, Waahington. 25, D..C.
IJ;ear Sir:..
On SUnday a!tarnoon, July the Sixth, I observed something very
strange ; 1 t 1a related. - - at least ill my own min~ w1 th t he
phenomena of t he •Fabulow, J':3.ying ~uceraf and I cannot report on
thia second phuaomena, without speaking or the first.
As I do ~ot wish to be considered the victim ot mass p ■ychology,
a crGok,-pot or-visionary, it is rather har d !or me to m....k e thi s
report. I am doi ng it beoause I oonsider it my duty.

A neirapaper article spoke ot the Bureau of standa rds as •Havi ng a
fi nger in the pie• in many experiments so not knowing whore to
write or who to write t o l wrote to the Bureau , and Ur. Hug h L. Dryd
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eh has suggested t hat you were the one to r eport to .
I had been amused at accounts ot the• !lying saucers•. ~eryone
was talking, laughing and joking about thema nd I di d not -believe
in them~
l)le Hollywood T,arzana BU■ wa s par ked a t the Terzana end of the line
and the driver wa s busy making out his .reports preparatory to malti ng
th• return trip. / I wa s the only one in t he bus and I sat i n the
middle or the side next to v~ntura . ~o the bus was parked nort h ~nd
south~
As I looked to my rig ht , a •Saucer appeared out ot nowhe re~appar­
ently out ot nowhere and it was followed by several others; they
were of uniform size and spaoed a t :tegular intervals and it seemed
as 1! they turned a c9rner from the ~e s t and they rolled
along
at g rea t speedto the Nort hward and parXa.llel toVentura Boulev~rd.
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As soon a s I becameconvinced that what f saw was not an i llusi on
but wha t every one wa s talki ng about I ~egan to s tudy them and it
was right t hen that my eyas seemed to be drawn to this other phenoma
in t he air between me and the • ~ ucers".
~hat I saw waa mi lky whit• rays in the sunlight t.hat seemed to aria
crosa like the search lights do at bight ; it was nothing like the
aun shining on some bright ob j ect tor the rays were not spa ced and
they were not so c.lose together and t hey e ris c ross ed. However, they
did seem to converge t owa rd a center but they d.id no t ~eet t here.
I rr ~hi ■ center - - a radioua or about eigh~een i nches it seemed
trom~r ea t, t here were spinning objects l! some red substance

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a bout t he c ol or or t he semi- ~reci ous stone Oomelia n. t hese
fra.gn.e nta ,·:e:-e sha rp a nd irregul a r a nd s hi ng . !'hey were flying
about as if f l yi r.g to a magnet . T~is w~s momentar y a nd I l ooked
to s ee i f t r.e •sauc e r s• were s ti ll t here. ·I saw one or two but
t he s ace thi ng 'happened aga i n 3nd 1 s a w t he second phenomena to r
a s e c ond. By t his ti me t he "sauce r s were ou t or s ight .
•; 11 t r:.e w~y hoipe I wa s tryi rig t o f i nd sooe logical e.xplane. t ion fo r

the "Sa ucera• bu t my c ind kept revert ing to t he second phenomena
and a s I dwelt on it I coul d no t help surmising it perhaps t hese
r a ys I s aw di d no t c ome out or the red f ragmenta that \,e re spinni ng
i n t he vorte.s. I ooul dnt hel p wonderi ng i t t his s u bst ance had beeh
c : ot from the • sa ucor s a s t heyt urned t he cor ner trou t ~e we st on ~heir
way to the ~or th/.
As our a r r:.:, ·.ould not be s ho ti ::- 1J- dly r ay s ove r t owa rd :i ve ry
croweded hi g ~way a ncl. a s t hi s \Thole t hi l'\; s eems fant a stic to say
t he l east , I t hought I ho.d be tte r t rus t s ome o,1es Jud.i;eae nt who
r eal ly knows wha t is g oing onand s o you ha ve my r eport on what
1 reall y saw , and wha t I a 11 ve ry cur ious a bout.
T,ha.nks t o Lm. Dryde n f or hi s cour tes y i n l e tti:ie oe know j ust
who to re l a t e t hi s i ncident to, a nd t ~a nks t o y ou fo r l i stening
and I hope t ha t i t ;..akes t he right ki nd or i mpressi on .

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conditiona, and that the objec~ 111.g bt be either ffl"tical or bori.sonal. !bl
subject rel&t.d that an7 change 1n spNCl ot the car reault.ed 1n a change 1n
spNd ot the object, and that cbang•• ot di.Net.ion reaultecl 1n a change 1n
th• anclA ot t.ra~l ot the object.
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NKLSON atatecl be bu not talked to arq peraou that bad a c t ~ aND
~ aucera or daca but he bell.end tbat thue renect.iou plu the
u . o i ~ t and b,rateria caued b7 other report. bu been tbe buia tor.,.,
~ M\ICer report..
Subject aleo •tatecl tbat th1a .... tbeol7 coald be

t.ra• 1n relation t o ~ Mucera •Mn troa aircraft.
Attached hereto 18 a detailed atat...nt b7 ~ • c o ~ h18 nnct1np
and •xp)a1n1ng h1a aoluUon to the BO-Called Fq1ng Sancer lf;1wter'y'.

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Julf 12, 1947.
Th• aoat 1apnaa1•• report• ot the ao-oalled fiylng
aauoera or d1aoa wre tho•• tro ■ ariatora llbo clai■ th•J

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aaw diac-abaped obJ•c~• flying through the air 1n Yarioua
toraationa at high altitudes and at a high rate ot apeed .
The tirat report waa tro■ an arlator who atated that th•••
ao■ewhat

ao-called flying d1eca had a

ahiny appearance and

would fly in formation and change their poa~tion from t1ae
to time.

Moat report• atated that they appeared in the late

afternoon or about dusk.
Most all report• were to the effect that theae objects
had the appearance of an inverted diac or saucer, and ao•
of them reported that they appeared to be rotatin ~ in their
flight.
The mystery of the flying aaucers or discs may be sol­
ved by the. uae of a little applied science along with a
few simple experiments.
These fiying discs or saucers can be observed by any
mot ori st traveling along the highways when the aun is
shining on moat any afternoon or evening.

During the day­

light moat of these ao-called flying discs a re r eflections
from the sun shining upon some bright object in or on the
automobile driven by the observer.

For instance, if you

were driving i n a north-westerly direction with the sun

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ahininJ on the handle of the front or rea r door on the l eft
side of the car, you may notice a shiny obj ect a ppear in the
ventilation wing of the window on th~ drivers left , if it is
opened to about a 45° angle.

tbeH lhllly objeot ■ ■ay hn• -.rloua tor■■ and th•re ■ay

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be aore than one, dependia& on the nuaber ot retlectioa ■•
They aay appear to be 1D the aky when th• drinr look• through
th• Yent11a,1on wins &la~••

Their poa1t1on in th• ■ky depend ■

upon·the angle at lilllich th• objeot la reflected 1D· th• ftn•
·tilation wing ·a nd the poaition of the obaer.er.

They may baTe

yarioua !ol'lla but ••17 frequently they are or a aaucer ahape
or a tat ahape when they appear-to be in the aky.

Tbe ••ntilation wing during day-light ie not ot cour••
a pert•ct ■irror, therefore, it a ppears to the driver or ob­
aener that h• ia actually looking through the g laaa into the
aky.

Aa h• ao••• along, t he bright obje ct• a ppear to be

traTeling at a high rate ot apeed in comparison with the
atationary objects on the ground, or the distant horison, that
he aeea through the window, or in comparison with the faintlf

ailbouetted objects on th• landacape which at times are re­
flected in th• window.
Th• fiying saucer a ppeara t o be travelini.i; in the ea.me
general direction aa the automobile but sometimes a little to
the right which makea it a ppear t hat it will eventual ly croea
the driYera path.

The a pparent flight direction or the

aaucer is due to the angle of the ventilation wing glass in
it.a relation to the direction in which the car ia trave ling.
The number and poaition ot t he saucers reflefted int.he glaaa
depend upon ~h• number and contour of object• reflected there­
in by t.h• aun.

Bri:;ht objects on a car a pproaching from the

rear ■ay caat such reflections on your ventilat i on wing in
the daytille• .

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It th• ._,11at1on wing window were a perfect airror th•
obJeota oauain& the re£leot1ona would a ppear therein••• well••
all ot.ber object• within range, but th• ventilation win
being
a aort ot a aeal-alrrc>r, do•• not Nllect the obje ct but only
th• bright .•pot, which leaves the impression that the obaerver
1a actually looking through the glaaa and tha t the obj e ct act­
ually a opears to be in the aky, or at timea a lon~ diet ance
away.
Th••• Nault• are beat obtained in the late artemoon,
or after aun down.
Tba arlatora who reported seeing fiying diace or saucers ,
undoubtedly were seeing th• reflection of bright objects in or
on their own plane.
They nw t.hem aa r efle cted in t heir canopy
or wind ahield, but failed t o recognise the m as retlectiopa.
Oth•nd.•• t.hey were retlectione from other air craft .
As the aviator ·traveled along obaervin~ the n,ovement of
the disc in coapari aon with tbe mounta i ns , clouds or station­
ary object• on the earth, male them appear to be traveling at
a high rat• or speed.
Th• sloping angle or t he avi a tors
wind-ahield and h is position in the plane made it a ppear that
the discs were in the sky.
The poaition of t he discs al so
depend upon the position of the observer and the angle at which
they are Nflected in t he gl a sa.
Some ot the report• stated that where there were more
than on• flying disc, they appeared to be tastenH
~ogether
and frequently perf ormed a dipping or rising motion and when
one would dip, they wo~ld all go thro•.igh the same " otion s i m­
ultaneoualy.
The aiaultaneous movemant iu due t v t he reflect-
lona all coming troa the aame object.
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ror instance, 1! they

a re r eflected tro■ eome ·bright objec t i n or on the car or plane ,
th• up and down motion or the car or plane cause• the tlyi ng
discs to a ppear to be &oing thro ugh a di pping and riaing motion,
or , if the reflecting ob ject i e atationvry a nd the car movi ng ,
th• results will be the••• •
The statement that the diec a a ppeared to be rot a t in1 aa
they aailod through the atmoophere ie due to the vibration ot
the automobile or plane .
Vibrations make thu, a ppear to be
rotatin~ a t a very high rate ot s peed .
Vibration is lfhat
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them a flat or disc- like ahape - also •
If you wish to see some fly1n~ di s c s , make a drive a t about
dusk or at ni , ht , open your ventila tion win~ window at about a
45° ang le from tho Jrivers seat and watch the refl ections o!
the ets tionary elec~ric lights t h ,t a ppear on your left , if you
are driving , a!t3r you paos th e~ 1 and s ee how many discs you can
obeerYa flyi n~ through the air .
It there a r e not t oo many l i ghts
t o your rea r, you may have a pe rtect formation of beautiful
flying discs wh ich may be red,
reen or ~i lver a c cordi n~ to
the color of the elec t r ic ligh ts which you ha~• passed.
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ar moat realistic \,hen travel i n ~ a bout fo rty-five or fift y
ail•• per hour.
Ir you do not get satistactory r esults from
your fir st experiments, try a gain .
Afier yo 1 have learned
when and nher• to l ook tor t hoc , your observation~ become more
pleaoin ~ ..nd interes ting.
Evon tho 11 : ht s of an approachin~ automobile f r vm your
rear mn.y a ppear as one flying di s c 1n your ventila tion win~.
The r efl ctions ot the approachin~ liyits will a p~ear in your
veneilation uinb unless the eide ot your car prot rudes out so
f a r as t.o pr e v .. nt tte 11 ~ t beam ""rom shinin , on the ·.:ing.

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Th••• appear beat when the approachin~ car is s ome distance
away, perhaps a quarter or half a mile.

The results at night

may not be aa impressive ae tboae in the late afternoon because
at night your ventilation wing window makes a more pertect
mirror and the passing landaca~ is not as pronounced, theretore,
the reflections therein are more easily detected as reflections.
In t he l a te afternoon, boweYer, you have a teelin~ that you are
act ua l ly looking through the glass and the r eflected objects
• ~pear more real. The sun ahinin~ on a bright ring on your fin­
ger with your hand resting on the steering wheel may caat disc­
like reflections in your wind shield.

The form or the reflect­

ion will depend upon the ornamental decorations on your ring.
Th• rear door handle on my automobile reflects nine beau­
tiful, little, silver, flying disca in the bright sun-light.
These appear in the lower part of the ventila tion wing and when

traveling on a level highway, they appear to be racinz along
with me at the road side.

These nine discs a ppear in a fora­

ation of two rows ot four each, with the ninth one 1n the lead
at the center ot the formation.

They appear as whirling pro­

pel lers in a vertical position. · These discs also have atreaa­
era which are due to the curYeture and decorative pattern on

the handle.

While traveling north in the early afternoon under

a bright s\Dl, these nine discs appeared tar below to my lert,

racing up the Talley at a terri fic rate.
You may be able to ••e flying disc ■ 1n your own home.
It you will tum on a aaall electric light 1n the hall-way
and then l>olc through the window at the other end ot the hall,
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aay s e e aa many as three flying discs from one electric
light bulb, w<hich may haTe more or less of a bell shape. Thea•
discs many timoa • ppear as inverted aaucera, and it you will
change 7our ?()Si tion slowl y you will see that they change their
position also.
Those ara best obserTed in the late a ftomoon
or between sun do..u and dusk, lilen it a ppears to you that you
ara merely look1n~ through the window pane at the discs sus­
pended in the distance.
As darkness comes on, the window pane
becomes a more perfect mirror
nd your discs a ppear as r e flect­
ions 1n a llirror.
To watch the discs, through your vent i lation \·:ine; , Nil
along ui th you as you drive through the country, b e c omes Tery
rascinat1ng, eapacially if' you use a little imagination. It
may absorb your t hought• completely, therefore , I ,ould adaon­
iah •~0110bil~ driTera watching the flying discs, t o be cautious
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and not. run orr the road or into some other car.
Some or t he reports on tlying aaucera, heretofore not ex­
plai.D~in this article, such as those re ported seeing bright
fl.aahea 1n the aky, were no doubt reflected sun-light fro■
plane s.
These light beams chanced to cross t h e line of vision
of the obaerYer. - They frequently appear Yery brilliant and
may aore or l••• blind the obsener for an instant.
If the
plane 1a Yery high it may not be aeen by the observer, which
aa7 be due to iapaired Tia1on or the great height at 'Nhich
the plane 1a flying.
\le very often get th••• aame blinding
flaahea fro■ automobile wind-ahielda,
Many ot the repor'ta
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around July 4th. were incited by variou• tortDa ot fire worka.
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SOllle report.a ateamed tro■ pure illagination or hysteria. while
other• were deliberate hoaxes •

.my other re ports can be ex­

pld.ned it all the surrounding facts a r e known .
Moat all of' the r e-.iorta and descri-ptions of the flying

aaucera coincide eo clearly with the findings herein. that
there could be no doubt bu~ that we baYe the correct aolution.
Th• ~oregoing atate. .nt may not be coached in precise
ac1ent11"1c t•nu• and may not be acientitically exact. bow­

eyer, we belieYe it la ao worded that the average l ayman can
understand it and that it ii. ~,1fticiently correct to prove
the proposition.
Persona1ly• I do not belieYe that the so-called flying

aaucers or the solution thereof. are or any military value,
unl••• the Govemment wished to retain this information for
the psychological effect upon any potential enemy nation,
auch aa Germany d id 1n regard to their so-called secret

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7 Aapat 1947
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1. IJ'he inclo■uN 1• an excerpt fro• a letter to
Dr. E. Tou.e7, Micron Ya•-■ Section Bead. Jra.al Be ■earch La)ora,­
to17, troa Mr. John 7. Cole, pert&Ulin« to ■oM ,midentifiH obJect•
which Mr. Cole report ■ to baTe •een •ome ti• prior to the fir•t
report• of •tl)'in« ■aucer•• in the Iev England area.
2. Dr. 'l'ouae7 ■tat•• that Mr. Cole 1• a well-mown ..,ronomer
and a reliable ob■ener a■ a reault of hi ■ trainiJI«.
3. The inclo■ure 1• in a441tion t o intoraation coatainecl
i n prenoua letter■ to 7our office taken fro■ 1nterT1ew• at the
reque•t ·of Lt. Col . G. D. Garrett, Ail A.-3.
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~. John "I. Cole

South Brook•Tille, Ne.
Jul7. ae, 1947.

BaTing in ■ind the ri~cule which ha■ been beape4. on thoH iuocnt
or per-hap• cullible ind.iTidual• who baTe reported dielca, I would be a little
oauUoue in lnterpretlq. :But it 1e eat• to ■ay trutbtull7, that ■oMthiDC
'UlU11&1 attracted~ attention, and I vae in a perfectl7 eober . condltioa,
'barrinc the •lld etllnllation, atforded b7 cool ■pring water filterinc throuch
llorth BaTen green■ton• craclca. It ahould be eae7 to deteraiu if the •di•k••
were a uv type jet plue, or bomber, or r ocket. '!'he !a.ct t':-t.t it vaa Jul7
3, about 3&30 P. M. ( auaaer tiM) or Greenwich C1T11 t1•e 1830 ■icht wcce•t
that the7 were •acace4 in ao• naTal demon■tration from :l&atportl, Bar Harbor
or :Belfaat. The group appeared to be at an alt1tu4e of about fiO - I autfer
troa a aild cenical arthriti ■--'but rq e7e• are well corrected tor aatigaa­
ti•• and bn,enNtropia, and I doubt if rq cerebral. cortical Ledon• are euffic­
lentl7 &chanced to affect rq balance. What firet -.de•• look up vae the un­
uWLl.17 loud roar and I va• eurprhed not to He a well defined group ot pl&nH
quite near. Inetead I had to look rather eharpl7 to••• the bunch-of Te1'7
licht colored obJecta, in a pneral northerl7 direction and tr&TelliDC ro~7
in a n (true) direction. Thi• vaa reaeonabl7 correct,•• I vaa on Co:x'•
hill, ud looked OTer toward■ :Baclcvood'• Mount, that 1• the conspicuoua flat
tep planated hill at llarbor•ide. '!'he group could hardly haTe cOTered aore
than lt0 azacular diaaeter in the eq, and bunched rather cloeely with DO
regular toraation. There ■ight haTe been 10, I couldn't ••Y and with 90 1 ot
arc eprea4, would -•iiy be within the limit of Ti ■ibility for di•creet ob­
ject■• A■ a group they were goin« •o •• to coTer 31J0 of arc, eetimated of
coune, in perbap• 10 or 15 eecond•. I f one of them, ■ay, eubtended 1/10°,
with a po•eible wuic apre&4 of 100 feet, 1t would put 1t at a di ■tance of
oTer 10 a1lee, and quite inTieible for a light obj ect. Beeide ■, vlth 30°
arc~ traftl at a 10 111. dietance vould be roughly 6 ■ile• in 15 aeconda
or 20 111. per ■inute or 1200 mi . per hour! !--rather f&at for a bo■ber--hi.
A fiO ft. object at ~ mile■ diet . would be about 600 111. per hr.-alao taet
golnc. !'he only concrete e-t·idence of fon apoeared on the left tancent of
tbe group-tvo dAlrlc ahaped fora•: ~ tf;J
which a&7 h&Te been tail wine•.
Doen't tbe DouglaH bomber haTe theae? And llince they were in no regular
for■ation, but aee■ed MOD« the■aelTe ■ to be ■oTln« irre«ularly like a ■var■
of be••• vb)- ehould.n' t all of the• han ahovn win«-? The loud roar .-a««••h
the7 11a7 haft been auch cloaer, and rather amall. 'rbe •lc;y baeqTOtmd vaa
bas7 bl111, ad the eun behind ■e. One -plane tovin« a lo• of balloone, I
belieTe, vould baTe been e&eily r8Cognised. BaT7 any Meteorite• been re­
ported? At that ti•• of uy. ha• there been an7 abrupt cb.all«• of radio field
etnDgth? or ionization?

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26 JULY li47
AC/ AS-2, Counter Intelligence Branch
MElfORAJlDUK TOa
l. Informati on contained herein and opinion• expresaed are baaed
upon conve rsat ion with and request by Mr. Butler ot your orfice. All
pertain t o certai n phenonema c onne cted with recent widespread talk or
"flying saucer•"•
2. Approximat ely three weeks a go, on or about 7 July 1947, I
prepared to go to be d around 2230 or 2300 EDT. I was livi ng at 2807
North Glebe Road , Arli ngton, Virginia, with my wife. Illustration No. l
s hows the ceneral layout or the r ooJ11 we occupied at that time. See
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on the aide ot the bed to listed to the end ot a radio proue,m betor.
reclizdng . ID the -,a.ntiae. ay wit• and I ••r• hanng •01111 con-nr••tion about the seleotion or certain t'urniture tor a hCIIW we had juat
purchaaed. At the tiae or these ewnt•• as I aat t"acinr; the windows.
a light appeared at the right•hand edge ot the extreae and window and
mo-nd rapidly along to diaappea.r below the tree• or horilon. or to be
extinguished in s c.e taahlon at acae place in a general southerly
direction. Thi• 1a illustrated on the tollowing page by a very tentatiYe aketch. See Illuatration No. 2. .
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t. At the ti-, 1inoe my attention wa• diTided and ab1orbed among
the 1ubjeot1 •ntioned, JI)' reaction wa1 limply that "a light paued b)","
and I gaw no turther thought to th• •tter until •oae moment• later,
When th• thought o... to . . that I had nenr aeen 1uo}) an object betore,
and that although the tir•t explanation would have been that a meteor had
fallen ~ r d earth in that direction, it did not han the appearance ot
any •t•or or "1hooti~ •tar" I had ever ■-Mn. Tbinlc:1~ ot the then­
prenlent talk of flying diak:1, I :refleo\ed that probably 1ome auoh
thing a• I had just 1een wa■ the aou:roe ot a large &110unt of newapape:r
and radio publicity on the 1ubject. The next morning I jeatingly
announced in the office that I nw a tlying Hucer the nigtlt betore and
thought that it wa1 enroute to Alexand:ria,where •ome ot our o.ffice:r1
liT•• I then went on to aay that I 1uppo1ed it wa ■ a •hooting 1tar,
but that it did look: 1011tewhat peculiar. At'ter we had diaou•••d the
general topic tor acae t1ae, I dropped the subject, not wiahing to add
to the auppoaed nao:r1, which I enviaioned aa a aouro• ot 1eriou1 panic
over the country.
6. A cleaoription ot the light, or object 1• almoat impoaaible,
aince obaerntion o.f it waa 10 limited. A• ahown in Illustretion Ro. 2,
the object appeared top••• in cloaeat proximity t o • at the tiJDe it
came into view. All o.f my mental calculation• were baaed upon acme
impression or oonoeption ot it• diatance at the clo1est point, (AC).
I had no way ot judgi~ thil, except in the form o.f ffry crude depth­
peroeption. Ir this by any chance were correct, ar.d inatead of a di••
tant meteor aome objoot had passed near-by, I would assume tor purpose•
of description that the distance AC on the sketch was SOl!le three quarter•
ot a mile. OM factor which I could judge quite reliably was the angular
elevation. Thi.a Ja1St haTe been approximately 3 or 4 degrees, at any
rate, the light was lnte:rmlttently behind the tallest treea forward of
ay position a• lt pa1aed, and these treea are or a normal height, perhap•
aixty or eighty feet at a diate.no~aeveral blocks . Baaod upon a aild
aasuaption aa to distance, and a reaaon.able as•U11ption aa to angular
elevation, the object would be at a low altitude, conaiderably bolow
500 feet, and ot a size approximating a ..all airplane, say 30 1'9et
aero••• The •h•pe nay have been round. 0...1, discal, or irre&ula:r; at the •peed with lfhich it travelled, I could only percein it a• a "blob."
I do not conaider the distance mentioned to be leas than 3/4 11111•,
lNtoauH had 1t been. I tee l sure th• t, late in the evenin:; and w1 th all
my winf\owa open, I would haw heard aome sound, which I definitely did
not in thi• ca••• It llight be well to poin~ out here the relati.,.
siailarity in •ize, altitude and airspeed of~ .firefly at a diatanoe ot
30 feet, au airplane at about 3/4 mile, and a aeteor at senral hundred
ail••• Moat of u• are familiar with thi• illuaion.

.. .

.

.. .

e. Although I oould not aoourately judg• th• t i • , I 1eena to
recall the object or light wa■ Ti■ibl• tor a couple ot ■ econd■•
Taking thi ■ tigure literally and applying it to the ■ketch, Bo.· 2,
on• could roughly compute th• a peed ot the objeot at 1350 aphJ however,
I did not ■ enH that it wa■ aorlng with ■uoh great ■peed a ■ thi•. It
rather appeared to acwe with the •pe•d o t a jet-powered airplane. It
did not deviate tram a ■traight oour ■e While I ob■ernd it, and did not
perceptibly lo•• altitude.
'I• In color, the ■ubjeot had the appearance ot a retlected wh1 te
light, a oool, bright white light with no red in 1t, like the naoon on a
olear night. Th•r• wa■ no train v1■1ble to - • in the torm ot fire,
■-oke, or ■para.
The wather at the aaaumed time and date was checked
through record■ ot the BollinC Pield weather otf'ioe, and con■iated ot
acattered to broken clCNdl with v1a1bilitie■ ot 10 - 12 mil••• 1'h• cloud
condition 1• further indication that the object wa■ not nece■■arily a
•.teor, ■inoe it aigbt have been impoaalble to ••• a •teor. I do not
per■ onally re-lll>er th• . .ather condition, except that I am sure it wa■
not raining.

a. At th• t i - ot thia occurrence, I waa not incll.Ded to think ot
it ■-rioualy enough to wake ay wit• and deacribe it to her, nor by a~
reaaoalng to ll&b otticial r4port. Aa tiae paaaed, I thought considerably
about the neeting glimp■• I bad ot whatenr I ■aw, and aa ■till aomewhat
contuNcl, but teel that it waa acae natural phenomenon which occur■ but
rarely. I have tlown appro:d.11m.tely 2500 how-a during th• put ~ ■-nn
year• and being 1•nerally tam.liar with a■peota ot a-nation -.n -phati­
oally atate that (a) •it wa■ no weather balloon, (b) it was not the tla1h or
a beacon on th• oloud-b&■-, (c) it could hardly have beon an airplane on
tire, ■inc• it would han at least caaahed in thia general area, (d) it
wa■ not entirely a re■ult ot i•gination, and (e) it waa not ■pending
auo h tiae in one place.

Yi-- . ~ -~ / /
(,/""

JAIIES O. COBB
Lt Colonel, Air Corpe

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-Mft.TTO
AINT LWICIJ OffICS
. .-=rolt..NIWAL IIISEAIICH LMORATORY
WASISJlr:a,,a. D. C.
--TO:
Cou
NAVY DEPARTMENT
NAVAL RESEARCH LABORATORY
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WASHINGTON 20, D . C.
38 .Tul7 194'7
stJB.mC'f:
ft7bc Saueen
1'0:
.laet . Chld O'f Air ftatt-2
Collection Breach, AD
~ 36,
D. C.
,
hppleaeiatal to tbat coatalne4 ill a letter'° 70v O'fflce,
tatecl 18 J11l7 194.,, re lnternw with Mr. c. II. Zohn who purport•
to._... . . • 1m14attf1ect flJinc object . tbe followtnc &441ttonal
ldol'll&UOD ,_. obtatne4 Oil 21 Jul7 froa c. c. llockwoocl. who we Mlltlonecl
la lbat letter ae •Tille &leo eeen the object.
C. C. Bockwoo4 NpOt"t• the object to han been either a •1ln17
aphere or 41ec, which be W01114 ban tabn to be a •teorolopo&l 'balloon
eseept for tbe fact tbat U ,... tranlltnc at a aach higher nloclt7
tllaa the autoao'bll• a4 approxiaatel7 1n tbe .... 41recUoa. !he auto­
ao'bll• we aoTlnc a1HNt eo aiph. !'bere vaa 11u1e, u 8117, -.daoe wlJMl.
1lba tint .... at •
•l•.,.Uoa O'f abo11t 46° 1 t appeancl about of
• coul4 bear nothinc abon the nolN of the
no ■-,a or contre.Ue.
Ille . . . . •1■- ae t.be . , ..
car.
r,...,
It• aoUoa , . . appanatl7 &11 horisoatal. It• aspect 414 aot cllMce
eo h.l'. . Cftlcl be olNterncl cl1U'1.nc tbe U • O'f obeenat1oa. • thoupt
it 41Nppe&N4 'b7 •1apl7 beco■J.llc too -11 to •"•
cu,Jt~/?'JJtdL_.
YILLUM P. fflJ,P
Major . Air Corpe
.AMC L1&1eon Officer
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JOINT CCMmfICATIOIB CITIC!
IR IESSJ.GE
FROMa
A.l!. LONDON
TO:
FJ.FDBL
AIX 6328
T.O.Or
080800 Aug. 1947
RIC'Da
1200 IDT 9Ul Aue.
t.ug. 8t.b 1947
Your AIX 14 Jul.7 29tb •
During normal nigh~ t1ying praot.ioe at. 2230 b0111'8 OD 16111
J & DUBr)'t
1947, <'ne ot our Moequitoe • • wotcired m to an UD.idenWW
o.lrora.ft At 22,000 teet.
A long obue en.me! OCl!lll8DOiae OWi' tale . . . .
.
Sea about ,:) dlea h-oc the Duteb coaat @nd ending at 2300 houn owr
Norfolk.
Two trt.et AI cont.r. cta were a:de bat f'aded qu1.oklY,.. !ha mt-
1.dentitied airo."'9.tt appea red to take etticient controlled •••1• acts.an.
No exple.m.tion of thil ind.dent baa been tort.lloOl'dng .,..
h&s it been repeated.
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P'I.nNG DIXS

For purpoaes of ana~is by AFBm~o., eighteen reported sightings
ot "ll'lJ'ing Discs" were selected tor bre&kdOllfn into detailed particu:Lars. F.ach
report was aaeigned a number and each nuraber appears in the lert-hand colUllll
ot the data on the following pages.

Qle report, t;umer 7, has not yet been received and therefore no
1n!ormat1on is included other than Date, Na.me or Observer, and Location. The
Fourth Air Force is attempting to eecure a stat.eraent trom this observer.
Four reports, Numbere 2, 4, 17, and 18, have not been ana.l.yzetl.

The subject headings on which thfl) bre&kdol'ln has been made are;
Dato

Hour (Local standard Time )
Location
Chse:rver 'a t: ame

Cbserver•s Occupation
Observed from Ground or ,Ur
Nwii>er of Objects .iighted

Altitude
Direction of Flight
Speed
Distanee Covered
Length ot Time in Jight

Deviation tram J'traight Flight
Color
31.ze
Jhape

Jound
Trail
Weather
Manner or Disappearance

Remarks

•

•

Report
Nwm>er

D9te

*.!!2:!!t

l
2

19~
22 May
22 June
24 June
28 June
29 June
1 July
4 Ju~
6 J~,
6 July
7 July
7 July
8 July9 July
10 July
12 JuJv,

1215

J
4
5

6

7

8
9
10
ll
12

lJ
11.

15
16

UJO
2120

lJJO
2015
1345
1145
1430
1550

2JJO
1600
11330

Location
Manitou .ipringe, Colorado
Oklahoma City, Okl.&h0111a
Greenfield, Massachuaetts
Mt• Rainier, ·,18.8hi.ngton
M.a.x,well Field, Alabama
Nera ', 1lite Sands; l~ew lilexico
Uakerstield, Callfomia
F;:urnett, Idaho
Clq Center, Kansas
Fairtietd-Ouisun, C:1lifomia
Koshkonong, ,ii£consin
East Troy, :•1isconsin
:.it . Baldy, California
Grand Falb , liewtoundland
Harmon Field, Newfoundland
Slmendort field, JJ.alika

17
I

'6

*Local ..>'t andard Ti.me

Report
flw:iber
1
O:>served
D. A. Houser
F. J. Smith
L. D. Jamison
2
Byron Savage
3
E. L. DeRoee
Kenneth Arnold
',1ilson H. .Kayko
John H. Cattrell
Hedman
Theodore Dewe7
c. ll. Zohn
J. R. Kauke
4
5
6
Occupation
from
Railroad .Employee
"
"
Ground
Cbserver 's Name
!I
Businessman-Pilot
~lot s tated
Busines s-nian Pilot
Captain, .v..f
7
8
9
10
11
12
Richarct Rankin
:;. J . Smith
Ralph -,'tevens
A. B. I3rowning
Jas. H. Burniston
?fot Jtated
"
"
tt
II
Not Jtated
II
II
II
II
II
:'lite ot C.C. Rockwood
Civilian f ilot
United ;dr Lines Pilot
11
11
" Co-Pilot
Uaj or, ~
Captain, .W
CAP Instructor
CAP 5tudent
CAl- Pilot
Mr. Yehrman
}'Ai;_
Grahm
uajor,
Irie Ke4rsey
GroWld
Ground
Air
Ground
,,
"II
"II
Grol.:lld
Air
"
.Ur
Ground
iiir
II
Air
llr. Woodruff
lJ
14
16
II
ti
CAP Passenger
1st Lieut., ACCWG
Constable, Newfoundland
Constabulary
T,'iA Uepresentative
Al.Yin E. lloorman
15
II
It
l l'lt Lieut., ;v.F
:)nploJee, Nl,L
C. C. Hockwood
Nancy Rockwood
"
II
II
AAY
and several other otticen,
•
*From letter received, observer
is obviously well educated.
II
Air
Ground
Ground
II
Ground

Of!Viation rroc
.5t r a1eht :light
Report
t-:umber
Clint>ed, dove, hovere d overhead, re­
sumed original course
3ilver
lione reported
Silver, very
br icht
5
Zi g zag cours e "much like a wa ter­
bue"
6
li001'! repor t ed
Brilliance
slightly great­
er than a s tar
J ome s olar spec­
ular reflection
1
Apparently small
2
3
4
7
Not stated
.ar.tos t dusk;
could not dis­
tinguish
Ver:, bright and
silvery colored
Reflection from
sun
Not stat ed
Impossible to
determine
Not stated
or light-reflec­
ting nature
Phosphorous
color
l~ot s tated
Apparent depth of
a P- 51
lot stated
None reported
.'.>ilvery
Followed contours of mountains five
miles away from observera
Res embled a
grayish balloon
Jame span as a
C-54 at 10 ,000'
,\pprox. 10 ' in
diM1eter
8
Konf" r eported
9
None repor t ed
10
None reported
11
12
lJ
Descended edgewise, stopped at 4,000 '
and asewned horizontal po~itior. . l'r o­
ceeded ir. horizont al fl ight f or 15
seconds , s topped Again, then disapp­
ear ect
None reported
None reported
14
Noni, reported
15
16
5
J0-50 ' in di8Jlle-.er
Comparable t o a
C-54 at 10 , 000 1
Kot stated

Report
N\&llber
Shepe
$0\p'ld
l.
No definite Jhape could be
detendned
?lone
None
CAVU
Irregular; roWld, Db not
appear particular~ discshaped
None
None
Not stated
None stated; seead like
a bright lieJit
No details other than that
sh&p-. was unitorna with no
protubarancea
None
None
Clear aocnllght
None
Poaaible vapor CAVU
trailJI
None definite, but seemed
flat on baae with the top
•118ht~ rough 1n contour
Round, diac-shaped
No shape could be dietinguished
Not atated, but report reter_a to "sauc8l"" several
times
.Saae u Report Uo. ll
Flat object, ot light-retlectin8 nature 'lfhieh appeared to be without vertical
tin or any viaihle wings
Egg-shaped, or like barrel
head
Circular 1n sh.ape, like
•aeon wheel
None
None
CAVU
None
None
None
None
CAVU
.;unny
None
None
CAVU
None
None
None
None
CAVU
Not stated
None
None
CAVU
l~on-,
Bluish black
trail approx.
15 ad. long
None
Clear with scat-
D:&11.
v:eather
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
l2
13
14
15
16
Resembled balloon
t.one
t.ered c wnulws
at 8 to 10 , 000 '
?lot stated

Report

Manner ot

N\@l?!t

Diaappearm1c•

Remarb

Cllnbed very tast and out ot ei8ht

No definite shape could be det.erm
and ev.-i with the aid ot 4 to 6 pc
er binocul.ars object could not be
broucht into tocua

Cbscured by a cloud bank

Froa letter thia observer wrote, i
is obvioue he 1s a well-educated
person. Seeks no publicity.

5

Lost 1n brilliancy ot the moon

6

C.mot explain, except that renec­
tion angle r111&y have c hanged abruptly

Cbservera {2 rated, 2 &ir intell.)
phoned Field Ops to aacerta:i.. n no
scheduled experiment.al a/ c were in
vicinit7. Sky chart attached to re
Cbserver is Admin. "3st. in the Roe

1

2

3
4

7
8

Don 't know whet.her t.hoy put on a tre­
Menduows burst ot epeed, or disinteg­
rated. HOlltever, they '1.id disappear into
sunset

9

Unexplained

10

Disappeared at an anele of about JQ0
above the earth's svface

11
12

15

Unexplained
Unexplained
Pil ot (at J(X)MPH) attempted to keep
object in eight , but unable to do so
Unexplained
Une)(J)lained

16

t:ot s tat""1

13
14

7

et Jonde .;ect. or t-'RL. Two other
"scientist.e", and wife ot one, wee,
in p arty and made same observation
Cl,eervers were Pi.,,_ot, Co-Pilot, ot
scheduled UAL DC-.). ..,'tewardes s ala1
S8.)1f objects • .:iuggest reading o t VY.
detailed statement.a.
When first ei e hting ob j ect near ho:
izon, ob server looked at chart in
his lap to check posit.ion. ', /hen he
l ooked out windOl't aeain, object wai
off his lert wing at 11 0 1 clock
Rolled rrom side to side 3 times 1l
its path across the s ky. Sun retle­
ed f rom top side , but never from ui
erside , even "hen turning
None
None
Cbserver contacted bue s in area w:
reported no a/c 1n air at ti.me
First. 4 discs flyi.n& line-a-trail
Jeemed to cut clouds open es it
pass ed thru . Trail wu like be~
s een after a higb-p0111ered landing
li:11 t it. s witched orr.
Cbj ect was obs erved paralleling t a
course of a C-47 then landing .

H?:AJJ-tL.:-.HTE:'.S f If rEE~TL .,
FC..-t..;E
Co lorado SprinLs , Colo :·ado

2 J uly 1947
SUbJ ::CT :

Su per son ic P latters

SU?a!AkY C.F INFCH!.'.ATICH :
The following info nna 1 i on was related to Counter l ntelligenc~ Cor ps
Personnel at iieadquar te rs Fifte entn Air Force , Color&.ao ..;prir., s, Co l o r ado on
27 June 1 947 o:., Mr D. A , h a.us er , 24 t;or th t:hesr,ut .:>tr eet , Colorado .>pr i nbs
Colorado, Mr, F, J . .imit:- , 24. r airview, ..lanitou Sp rint,s , Color ado a.nd Mr. L ,
D. Jami son, 241 b \,es t l\ iowa., Color~do Sprin 8 , Co l orado . All three o f t he
men are empo l yees of the P iKes Peak kailv "y , anitou !:>prinbs , Colo rado.
"On or a bout 19 ...ay 1 ~~7 d\.4r ing the i r l un ch ~er i..>d ,, 1 21, -1 3ltJ a me m­
ber of a t rain crew called a. t~ent ion to a s : l ver obj ec l in ti.e s ky a i pr oachin1,
from t r.e Nor tn Zs.s t . It a ;,peare d t.o we t ravelli11, a t a i;;reat SFee<! , All
thret1 men sta t ed tha t t r.e alt i tud e o f t.ne object was very di1'ficult to de t er­
mine because of i t s a ppare nt sma l l ness. They fur t.r,c:1 r s t.a ed that. because of
th .:.s it was d iffi c ult to view t he objt1ct a s beinb l arbe a n d .,avinG hie;h
altitude o r s ma ll and being a t a r elatively l ow al ti t ud e. 'i'ne~ did se.y thou c;h
that i t appeared to be higner than the t o p of ~1anitou !,'oun l.ai n wn ich i s ov er
l OUO f e e t hit.her than t ne shops which are situated a~ i t& base , ,fo defi 1w. 1,e
a ..ape o f t h e object could be de t e rmined a n d even wi th t.i.e aid o f binvculars it.
t1till c o u ld not be b r ought into f ocus . The IJinoculers u sed were of a.bou t 4 t o
6 power. The men s tated that they were cer a j n that Lite cbj-,ct did not nav e
any of t ne physic al characteristics of modern conventiona l aircraft .
The da y was di scribed as being clea.r a 11d sunny with n o t
sky and.io g r ound wind .

11

cloud in the

On reacb i n t, t : e area j ust Nor th o f J.ie.r,it ou I. outs. in t he ob j e ct 1·emaine d
io t ne immedia ~e a rea for several minu tes dur ing which time it was s e en to
exec ute ma nuvers s vch as cllmbl.:.g, di 1 ·1r, t nd r eve :sal o f direct ion of fli ;: ht .
Th i s ha£ pened ever y few seconds. The. distance and l oc..ltion be we e n views
pr ompt ed two 01' t .,e men to t h ink tnat t here .were more of • he unidentified
obj ec t s in t he sky . At times tlie object seer,1ed to hov ee r lo t11e ai r w,d then
st.art on a no ther pa t h o f fli , ht . When last seen t : e sHve c ob,;o ct was c limo1n,, very fat1 t toward s the ~,est almo st d i rect l y in to the wind ,
Pr e vious disLribu t ion :
Eva l u to. t.i on
None
s our c e
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21. J ul y 1947

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ME!AO:ut;i)UU 'ro TH::: S~P.ITY CF ::-:CC.:R, OCA.MA , 7IK t,..R :-r..:.w.

SUBJ.:CT:

BTIOI\ :. . :JAVl..G':. , field Enginee r, :taaio Cor poration of
America, Dallas, ':"exas . ( ltesidence: 416 K. :,. 29th Street,
Oklahoma City , Okla hOl'IIB. . )

RE :

Flying Disc.

On 23 July 1947, BYRCN c. JAVAGJ was intervi ewed at his resiaence,
416 N. W. :;><)t h Street , Oklahoma Ci ty, Oklahoma , relating to his alleged
viewing of a flying disc over t he vicinity of Oklahoma Ci ty, Okl ahoma.
Subject , whose age i s 38 , advi sed he is married ar:d nas one child ,
and is pregent l y the hol de r of a Private Pi l ot ' s License , No . 39101,
( wingle ~ngine , Land) . Subject averred he has extensively s tudied elect ron­
ics, sound engineer ing an d aerona utics , a nd his present occupation, which is
Fiel d engineer for Radio Corpor ation of America , of t'ices of which a re
located i n vallas, Texas, i s that of installing theat er sound equipmdnt.
~A VAGE stated that be t ween the days 17 May to 21 Uay 1947 , jus t after dusk ,
he obs e rved an object which he bel ieved to be a sma l l air cr aft i n the south.
~AVA~6 advised t hat the s un had jus t gone down and t he moon had not a r isen
on the hor izon. s ~VAG~ related that he and his wife had j us t depart ed
thei r r esidence and had started to enter their car in the dri veway a t
416 N. ii. 29t h St r ee t, Oklahoma Ci t y . He judged the time to be bet ween
8 : 30 p. m. and 9 : 00 p.m., and the l ight s fran the city of Okl ahoma Ci ty
ap~e~red to be shining on this object when he f i r st saw i t. He judged the
obj dct to be about 160° i n the south whe n he f i r st saw it, a nd as it moved
t owar d him he r emarked to hi s wi f e that "a big white plane was coming over."
,

SAVAGE sta ted tha t whe n this object was at a 4 5° angle from him., he
realized it was not a conventional. type aircraft, and it appeared elliptical
at firs t a nd a s it moved close r it appea red per fectly rowid and was flat .
SAVAGE advi sed the object , which appea red to him as a disc, had no appearance
of belng sphe r i cal and ha d a ratio of diameter to the thickne s s of approxi­
mately 10 to l, appearing thicke r in the center, but this could not be
positively ascertained. SAVAGE judged the object to be at a.n altitude of
between 10 , 000 and 18 , 000 feet, and it left no trailinf effects. SAVAGE
related that it appeared to be in bulk as big as the bulk of six B-29s at
an al titude of approximately the same height. SAVAGB advisad that the obj ect
was i n his vision approximately 1 5 to 20 seconds and travdlled at a speed
whi c h he judg•Jd to be approxima t el y three time s tha t of jet-propelled aircraft.
l

Memo to the Securit7 Officer, OCAMA, Tinker Field, dtd 7/2J+/47, Fil•

372J+-I.
SAVAGE stated that there were no protrusions on this object and as it
went b7 he l istened tor a sound of noise., and at one time thought he dis­
tinguis hed a swishing sound like the rushing o! air. This swishing 80und
occurred a rew seconds after this object ·had passed him. SAVAGE averred
this sound wais not verr loud and did not last very long, and it is vecy
possible that the sound could have been his imagination or expectation, as
he was not sure or the sound. SAVA~ related that he cal.l.ed his wife to
see this object but it had disappeared before s he could focus her eyes on
it. Subject s t ated-that the object appeared to diminish in size and
speed as it moved away, and it was moving in a direction of 3 500 . to the
north. Subject further stated t hat th4' object appeared to be frosty white
in color at all times.
SAVAGE advised that he has held a pilot's certificat e since 1934 and
has been flying since 1929. He advised tha t he would be gla d to answer any
further inquiries and will cooperate in every way possible .
SAVAGE s tated
he was sure this object was not a meteor and in his opinion it mus t be
radically built and powered, probably atomic.

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KAUUN D. SHON

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U. S. Army

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July 10, lM,

OoeeneP4lnc Ottloer
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Ohl•epee• . .■a.hullet1,■
Dear llrt

Al'Mr ha-ring read ••ffral aooomta ot ey.'""'1tnN••• Who olata the7
bad aNn t llll ao-oall•d • t lying d1101•, 111 brought to a1nd a •trance •xper­
l•noe I bad .... --- WNU • · !tw reuon I write to JeU fl that radio and
-paper repona naw ~• 1sbl air t.roN ba'ft 'been alff'Wd to lnwetlgate
the•• 111"1terioua el>jeou. A.H\ad.ng that you an la'Mre1~, I . . aaldng tlw
tollAnring report 1n the bellet that 11' ld.r)lt po■■ ibly be ot )adp to Yl»U• I
do DDt 4e11re to haft uq kind ot publiolt7 wbatlo...,.r 1n thll oonnecrtion.
Aboub 11,ao All• 8\lllday, ,_,. HIid, I wu worldnc outdoon on a atiep,,,
ladder, loolc1ac up, and •udlll•nq t1-re a ppeared aoroH 11¥ line or nlion a
1pMd.1ng, bl"illlant, -11, round••ba~, • l l T • ~ • object at aD altitude
I would jwlp to b• al»out 1,000 rt. or aore. lt waa •Tina .-.ry t'ut 1n a
atraight, non11R1wrly dlreotion ,- I 111>uld 19.7 u t'Mt or po11 i bl7 r ut.er
thin a 1pNdiJI& pl&M. It wu ao \llluaa_l and •true• a a1ght t hat it arreet­
• rq attention tor about 8 or 10 ••oonda umsll it wu obeou.ried b7 a oloud­
banlc.

•turall7 rq ourioaU17,.. oonaldienbl7 aromed and I tried to 1;.b1.nk
what tb.1• objen llipt haft been. I doli»tled ".-Y awob that it oould haft bffn
a wa~r b&loon beoaua• it ,.. DDt at all lib any weatlwr baloom I ~ H8D
before. th9 objen I •••• althouch mall, retleowd tbl eunli&ht ftry .trong­
ly u thous)l it were ot poli•hN al\llfima or 111.,.r, and 1 oan auure JOU wa•
'"l"Y real. It appeared to haw an irngular ro\lnd abape and while it oould
ha..-. been U■ o-■ hapecl, it did not partioularly 1apNH - u ■uob.
l haTe att..pted to glff you thl• 1nton1&1Jion a• acourately and
olearly a■ I know bow, tree t~• &111' 1Jlaglat1on or exag •rat1on. Pw-ther­
aore, ,-y experienoe took plaoe betore I had any 1.Dklinc tbat •tlJing di■ oa•
wre reported eeen.
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Thi• int'oration 1• bei.Dg pueecl on to you tor Whatenr it .,.y be
"°"h, purely and daply ln the i nteN1t1 ot niltli.onal 1eounty. and onoe
aore N quaet t hat JOU do not publiou• rq naat.
llnoer-oly youra,
A OIR!Il'IB:D fttJ'I COP'lt
/•/ B4ward L. l>eRo••

Edward Le l>eRoN

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BllDQUllffl.S POOllTH .UI POICI
ott1oe or the uahtant Chier or St&tt • .l•Z
I ntelUgenot
Bm:dlton Pitld , Calitornia
stJBJICTa
1Dflnlp.'1on of •n,-1ng I>hoa•
eo-ncting 0.NNl• M'Wt7 ~ir Poroee, Wa•hinf\ou Z&• De Ce
TOt
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Attaoll•4 ttate•nta a_nd lfOIC• f'ol"'llarct.d to J'O'lP otti•• per
.....n !IX tJ-oa S.adq\l&l"ter• Air DettnH Coaaand. l(Uoh•l Pi•ld • • • T.,
dated 10 July l~tT.
z. Thia ~dquanera 11 unable to looate 11obard lankla. h01NTer,
•• aoon •• he it located, atat...nt and MOIC will be tornrded direot t o
your of't1oe.
a.
Intoraation oop1t•
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l • liN>IC U Jul/.lrown
z. IIOIC 16 hl/.&r-f1ffn
llllO 16 Jul/BJ-on
, • MOIC l& Jul/Brown
a.
In1'o eo to ADC
turniahed Beaclquanera .Air Def'an1e Colmand.
DOI.U.D L. 8PRIIOIR
Lt. Colonel, 080
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16 Jul.r 1947

l . t.m l2 JulT 1947 , a oall •as aade at the nenpaper otf'ice of
t.be "Idaho Oail.7 .:>t at"1Ulll •, C!oiee, I dam . The artation ed.U,or ot t.b.e
paptr , :.r. Darld N. J obnaon , •aa inteni ewecl in regard to ho• ,r..U be
mew llr. lem etb Arnold ot oiee, Idaho, and u to the credib1.llt7 ot
m 7 at.atnmt aade b7 Ur. 1 mold. Th• purpo H of t his urt.-d. . was u
atte.pt to ••it7 atat_.t& • ■ad.• b;r !lr . i ennetb A.mold on 26 J um 1947 ,

t o yaJ"iou• national DeQ aerrtoH to tbe etfeot that be, .r. A.mold ,
bad e een 9 objeota n71,. in the air abo•e the .:ascade •ount.ain P.mge
ot 1a s b.1~ton. Thes e ob ject.a •er• aubsequentl.7 referred t.o H f1)"ing
eauoera or n.,1.nc d.i■u and will her.-in-aft er be reterred to aa s uch.
1n thia report. .
r. J ohnso n stated tbat he had known Ur . Arnold f or
quite a period ot t1. ., ba'flng bad r e lat.iona with
• Arnold on T&riou a
oocaai one, "1• to tbe tact th.at botb bl, ar. J ohnaon, and Hr. Arnold
were pr1 Yate tU.n and f requently cot t.og•tb.- to talk abop . Kr . J ohnson
atated that u f ar • • b.• •aa concerned aJJTth11'\i Kr• .lrnold said oculd be
take " •"f7 ••riouly and tbat be, arr. J obnaon, act.uall,y beli•-nd that • r .
Arnold had •••n the ator. .nti,>Ded f'l.,lnc di.aka. lilr. J ohnson stated that
aftc- 'lr. 1rnold reported bannc s een th e flY1n« diaka, that the editor
of the paper had a•~icned hia, r . J ohnson, t he u ,.igaaeot ot taking t.he
airplane beloaging t.o the nnapaper and exhaustine all eff orts \o proTe
or duprO't'e t he probabilitT or a71ng d i.a ka had n, been aeen in the
nortb. .s t area. The re.ult• of thia a satgnaent t o ~ . Jobneon and what
he aubaequentl;r ••• 1a put forth i n a sworn stateant signed b7 llr. J ohnson
a t tached to tbia report ae ~bl.t B.
AOPT'S OTIS s wr. Jobnaon ia a aan ot approxiaat,el.y- )) to JS 19ars ot
ac•• Proa all appearanoea he 1a • ••rr reaerYed t;rpe or person. Irr.
John■ 011 baa l.oued 2800 houra ot tlri,ng tiu in Yari.oue ~ pea of airplane•
up to and 1nclud1.nc aal.t1-encin• aircraft.. During part. of th• 1'U' 19ara,
Vr. John■ on was the r1nt pilot ot a B-29 tn>e airoratt beinc assigned to
U. Tw9nt1e\h OSAAF and at.ationed on Tinian t.aund, in the Paoifio. It
1a the per.on.al opinion ot the int.-nenr t.hat. tr. J obnaon actu.all.1 sa•
what he ■ tat• that be •a• in the attaohed rtipOrt.. It 1a al.ao the opinion
ot the int.niewer that Mr. Johnaon woud have •oh aore to lose tun c ain
and would ha~• _, be nr7 atroncl7 oonTinNd that be act.ll&llT aaw ■oaething
W on be woud r.port ■uoh an 1no1den\ a11d open hiuel.t tor the ridioule
tbat. would aooo1111pan.J' aich a repor\ •

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Statoment or Do.vi e. I, . Johnson
at Joi s e , Ide.ho , July 1 2 , 1947
To \lhom It ~·~y ~onoern :
On the sixth day of July , 1947 , I r e ceived from Je,rtes L . 3r ovm ,
r,ener e.l D'\l\naier or the :,tates ~nn Xewspo..pers , i n corpor ated in Idaho a s
T 10 Statesl'l\an Printing comoany , an assirnoent which vms in substance:
" ~onduct nn ee rial sear ch of th" nort hwest stetes in tin effor t to
see o.ncl rhoto.-rnnh a fl ying- disc .
Cond uct this Jatrol fo r so lon r; a time
o.s you ~e lievo rea ~onab l e , or until you see a flyin• disc ."
In accordance to those in~t r uotions , I t.ook the Statosnan ' s nir pla.no ,
o.n-... ,.it;h tenneth 'rno l d as pu ss en er , f lew c, s J von o.nd one- half hour. r-1ission
on tho sevc•1th do.y of: July , 1 S17 .
co•1.or ed n
~hi :ii - ission wa s wlthoul.. r e::.ult .
It
area e•i:..>rncit~r; tho c on_'ir.o::i of tr.o ..nnford :-,1 ,nt. .:.~ ,a.si,ir.i;ton ,
u.n<l te rritory 'between ant! arounc
fi rst reported seein
1 't .
•r. inier und
t . ..demo , wl1er& Arno ld
ob,ioct:; honcel'orth described us saucers or discs .
On the ei~hth day of July , 1~47 , I took an AT- u of the 190tn Fi r:hte r
s quadron , Idaho l ationc l ;uar.:i , of ,,hich I am a ~mber, and fle·.
.
Iunho , into nortl'wrester r
'on tana b riefly , to Spokane ,
to 3oise by woy of ••alln .a.Ha ,
to r.ortr.ern
,ashir.i"ton , nnd back
.ashir,.ton, and Penctletor , vrt:1 ·on .
rhis
search al6o was ner,at1ve .
On tne ninth ua:, of July, l.'i7 , I cont.inuud thu search , ornin usinl!: o.
national
uer d AT- G, ttis tioo centorin
west s.~d soutLwoct or 3ois , ..
southeast o!' ";he
ortion of tb:t
ountuin f.ol':\G ar:::;,
tainJ , ar.<l back in tho
my ef~or ts over tno Ov,yhe~ ~our.tains
ountain .:one dese r t on a tre.ck
o.ir baso , t ,onco into t ho ~a'lftooth I our.-
:ener t l dir£otion or 3oiso on n lino carryinr no woll
to the r.ort ?. or t;he '>hnfe r ":>utte for est serv:.ce lookou~ ... totior. , into tt,o
I'orseshoe Bonu. a.ref' ,
r>,1u
t 1.cmce l.,a.c': ir n soul;:.Hesterl:· :lir ,c .. :.or. t;o &. point

between Boise and the v illo.r;e o r
o r idien , west of ,oiso a few 1'liloo .
l>urinr, thi s sear ch , whioh lasted anpr ox i r.lbt..cly tv,o c.nt on<; - ht.1. l!'
hours , I flow und e r and e.rouno r e .,i<lly fo r l"'inr· cumulus c lou ds o v e r t not
area knovm as the Came.3 Pra. i r io , east of' 1oise .
villace of Fni r f.iol<:.. ir: thot va.llo:, ,
dist a.nce oust of 1o i se •
H !cl
The cloud3 wer, roa r
t.ho
?oi rfi r:.lcl is 7'CJ riLn ai r lin'?
..t that time I saw nothi n ,· ir. i,hc vicinity of
these c l ouds .
At tr.e timo I reacned the point between 3ois .J a.nu
e r itlii n , I was
f lyinr, at nn altitude of 14 , 000 feet mean sea l eve l , which woulC: be a rntie.n
ave r are of 11 , 000 feet above the e r r th in this area , not consi~er in; e rro r s
in tho altimeter induced ol.t, her by bo r oMotric chPnP.;es cin c e m~, taJreoff , or
by tho tompcrcturo at thrt.. a l titude .
I tur ned tho uir crcft on Pr. cc~stt. r l:1 hcatirw , pointin
Field , &nd h • d I'l o ,r on tht .. cour~ ( ro r
tov;arc. ~owen
>Grr,llp:; o ;ninuto wi,on '..r,er e sut!aen ly
e.ppo ared in Lhe l Aft hnnd oortion of::-.:, i'i,L, of.' •1ision r_n object -.:hich was
black and r ound .
I im' odiatcl:v cer.tered !'l"Y ~azo o n ➔,lo obje ct .
err atic J.CI V~··.ent , I i 110u ·ht I ·:.u:; seeir:
/.r, t..,.at time , due to
a ·.-,ec.t1.e r b"lloon .
1 CC'lled the
CAA ' s COMMunicnticn :;tnLio"' 1 t
oise , c.n c! • :..kou : 'tie ·1cC1.'; .or ::;to.tio?" ho.cl
r E.;cer.t l:· r elo'l:;od a
bnlloon .
- . ,e re nl:' fron co:-t."1'.rn • en to r
the b\·r~e.u hnJ not .
I rlo not re"'er">er hi ::i •1XEit"t worc.s ;
i.n-, r ession he si id " not fer s~ven 1 hcJrs" o r
·n v e
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•, n
ii;G
l
r'tsor was 1;,.ut
o:r.t ct tl:r,'3 of t .e
ot·evious roloese , Hhic:. was arountl .)8 : ~O t ..· t day .
•:non '..enrin'" t.ni:; r(;s-,ons , I turn d ;.nc f> ~ rcrat't b r c•o.d:side "..o the
o!:>.ject , ri•..illed bt>clr
hn .,l,nci -1, ss coverin
•.o c.void an;, dis~ortion . took
my ce.r,er!l f r o.., t ho ru::, er s , ,ir.d ex-.osed i. ~ou t 1 0 se co?'lci s '
'l'i llime .. e r !"Otion oict•..: re fil:n .
.J\lri!'l
...i i rf tio!"
t.,o "Ci!"F-J the cir e r £ ·.vos
o!' e i p-ht
t 0"e lev e l,

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I c ou l d not s e e the object beccJse of ~inute~ess 01 sco?e introduced ~y the
o ptical vi ew finder with \':hich the canera , t.n f . 1. 9 East-:an , was equipped .
Takin -• the came r a away and once ar;ain cer.torin ~ n;v gaze on tnc ob5€ct ,
I observed i t to r o l l so that its ed~e was nresented to me .
fla shed once i n the sunli";ht .
At this ti~e it
It then appear€d e.s c thin b l ack line .
It
t hem pe r fo r med a :r.aneuver which looked as if it had be17.1n e. $low roll , or
a ~arre l r o ll , wl,loh instesd of heinf co~?leted, was b r oken off at about
the 18O- de,:r ee point .
~'he object r olled out of tho t.op o~ the maneuver at
thi s p oint , and I lost sibht of i t .
rhis onti r o )0r forna:icc was o">sorved asainst u~e ':>eckf;round of clouds
p r e vi ous l y f <M"rrinr; over th"" ~ana5 Prairie .
r e l atively ,
[1.S
!'he o~je c t o.p'.)e&reci to r1'? ,
the s.izc of a twenty- five cent o ioco .
f ar awa~' it ua~ .
I do not knO\'t i1ow
I <lo not kno,·1 , nor cun I truthfully os'.;ir.iatc , its soeed .
I c an or:ly say it was not an airolr.ne , end if it wns at a v ery ·reat dis ­
t a n ce from me , its s')oed was ·reat , tokinr; into conside r at ion thnt n::>par.,nt
spe ed i s r e duce d to the viewer if , n ob.iect is a verv n-reat distance av,ey .
I f oreot to l ook ct ~v c l oc~ ~o dete r rine the exact time I sa.w the
objo ot .
The CAA ' s loe; o!: r adio contacts shows my first conta.ct to hnve been
maae o.~12 :17 hours .
3ut n few seconds elapsed between the tir1e I fi r st saw
the obje c t , and the t i me I c n lled the C.-.A ' s station .
I s ub s equent l y r e lated o ver the r adio fl descrir,tion of what I savr, and
0O!Tlr.luni oator .:..1bert son may romer ber it .
in; or the conversat i on .
I
lhe contr ol towor nay have· a. record­
1ave not chocked to deter r i n~ that .
'J.he purpose o f '"fl.Y ro l e.tin
over tho air whnt I s aw wo.s to enable raoid
transmi ssion of the r e_)ort to tho uevrspe.per, fo r at thut t i me I was on
assir.nment o.n d my ener ~ies 1hencofor th we r e dev oted to (1) t r a'1s11ittinL the
i nf orn-.at i on o.n cl (2 ) oonductinr, o. fur the r sea rch , which I did aftor l unding
for fuel a nd to make some t eleohone c a lls .

rhe next search , b t: un wit:iin :.c.lf :r. :1our nf'te r· l·~ ... :n
.fro!'l t he
Irr.:nudiatt1lv after .. i ·nt in l" tho object . - • s::cl~ -=--· t . t re "..oro ot~or
nircrnf~ in the urea .
rio ncv v\;)r: in
over
t. o vi.ci~it." o ' :·una ,
ut
t. t ,..... s
HJ
ir.~ --:.c .
• C- 82 ,a ssca
oi se , '>ut I saw t l.t\t tdrc r nft g o b€:-.ea.t :. me. by :ic t.' 2 , 01)) feet .
'I ho ::>- 51 1r: t.r.c v~cir.it.' of r:un~ or oceedeo to tho a rea. ,-r.,e re I
t'1e ob,iect , at:"'?' request , a.nd condicted a searer .
Tt
sa.v:
was ne •tive •
.Jurinr the afterroon , ~light s of P- 5ls wer e sent out to cove r the a r e &.
and sol'"\e 01' thG"'l flew hir;!-. e.l"titudo :-.issions on oxyren .
I'hese st:1srci es
were ner,a ti va .
I was sul::>soc:uent ly .:.nfor1, tJd thnt -, Drsonni:,l on ·,otn thE, t ni.tad Jti r
tinos ·sitlo or ~~won fie l a , a~~ on t he catio~al ~ard side , obso rved o bl ack
ob.}oct n:ar;ouvorir. "' it. f r ont of the so:- c clou<l !'or"'lll..,ior: , ·,:} ici. by 1.ow had
f r om a :,eon bnso o~ 13 , Juu o r 14 , 000 feet , '"eR:' sea. level •
.,'ltr oe of ~hase
r s on.'1.. 1 t:' ll U :r trl1<cC to t f,cr.1 , ns'::n
:-:ton wora r.a.tione.l · unrJ
do::.crilJc ,.he t th-?·• so.., , ')c "or,
th~.. to
t .. llinr them r:ry :;tor" , i n ~,rdcr ~o uvcid
su ·•~L-stion o,· inf'er enoe of n ltlt\.lln
r.otur o .
'i'ha:-,· SE\\', t h o o :<-ot. \from
tho r,r o und)' whi l e I wns on "':ly socond search .
They ocl i eved ... i,o tirr.o to
have been 14. : 00 hou rs .
The o':lj.::ot oe r fo r n1od in the sa•:\o? e rratic ntnne r ,
they said , as I observed .
The above ls the e xtent or the sto r y , and ini'or:rc.t i on con oern jn­
rn,vse lf is now in o rder .
I ha ve npproxineto l y 2800 hour s of f l ~in~ t irne in cquipmtnt r nn ~in~
f r om p r imary t.r fl inors t.o J - 2Js .
Of cour se , thnt does n ot. inc r oase ny
power s of observation o xoept f'S to those nr ncti ced dnily b~ nn nirut-n .

•e COt~fi'IDENTIAI I
It doo a not 111&ke my eye s i ~ht any sharper except again as to the incidental
demanda upon t ho oyea of 'a pilot.
At t ho. time or· t ho expe~ienoe r e lated a bo ve . I had flown fourteen
and one- half hour e on an a asi ~nmont t o find a di ao and i ~ possibl e . to
photogrnph it .
In all f r ~nknoss , I wa s t i red.
I may have been suffering ,
al though s11::;htly . f r o:n wnnt of oxygen .
Prior to si;htin~ t he object , I had concluded thor o was no po1ot i n
pr e s sing t he s ear oh . t hat I p r obably ,.ould ne ver see tho d is o- liko objcot.s
r e f orred to JY Arno l d ~nd by Captoin Sni th of Un itod Air Lines .
At n ll tinos tluri n· t:1e, soo.r oh , both on that day o.ntl tno b-10 pr eoodi ni;
days ( pa rt 1oulnrly w:1en I was ,n t:1 Arno l d) I had liter a lly tt.lkod t o· mysel f
to keep bee.t i n• into ny head tho.t I would not fnll vioti-i to tile powe r or
sur~e s t i on or s e l f - hypnos i s ari s i nr, f r on o. nc~ur nlly ve r y intent dosi r e to
find a disc ond bring succe s s to tho assi nr.ien t e;1ven "'• •
I ther eror o do not ?el iove that I was the vioti- or su ;cos tion or
h~•onosis .
I
O'II
ft'l"i li r with the opti011 l illu ai or. of e fixo d o b,1 eot :>e;i n ­
·nin • t o oove o.ftar it is v.atched a s u!'f\.cient l onr-tl, of time .
I know whet
t r iolcs -:he e~:o s will p;ay as to r:>0vin~ bod · es , and l ve l ear ned of this
:>O.rt ioul nrl:, duri.,.. • n i ht !'c.ir
tion :l:,rin..,. .
1 so.w tho 0:1.-loct n!);>ee.r :;uc.denly .
(a3 i t die cit :'irs:.J .'.'or
If it hno ,ovod in l ~o r k!,r ~a::i1io n
:1e "'ul l l<.in·th o!~ ti::--• I observad 1 • : T.ou d ~ot
ho ~u'lstior. rer • ~
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241 B&~ery Street, San Franeisoo~ ahowed no traee of a117 object.
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Stohr
says that if it was more than a nile di~tant ,from ne at tbe •1~• I described,
the objeot would not h&ve registered sufficiently on the ftlm to be shown .
Ile aaid it probabl7 • • too far away to be apparent eTeathrough c roat en­
largement of the negative, and enlarcement in . that e&J• ia limited beo&uae
of the aise of ~he N.lm and the fact"l did not have any teleaoopic equipment
on the lena.
The expoeure was r.1 6, •to~ set at infinity, at a speed of 16
frame• per aeoond.
I h.nve •worr1ed over this matter a great deal a1noe seeinf it .
I "took
myself aside" and said, "oome now, Johnson, don't be atupia . •
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dut I carmot ·
bring myse lf to the point of thinldn& I di d not see anyth1n&•
Tho im~resaion
ot the Momont was too vivid, too realistic, an d I knew in the air when I saw_
thnt par tia l slow roll or barr el roll, that I wns not a victim of illuaion .
I t ruat this mattor will be of hel~ to those inveatigatinc t he flying
di ao phonomena which hD.vo been r eported.
chart is attached depicting the Movements of t he object as I saw it .
1his stotensnt io made voluntarily and freely , in response to the
request or Ur. 3r own and ~ant ain Davidson , who called on me this ~ornine .
/s/ IJo.vid _r . Johnson
Suh•cribed end sworn to botoro ne , a·nota ry oublic, t h i5
12th
n y of July, 1947.
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Geo . L. Flaherty
l,otary ?Ublic for Ada
count::, Iaaho .
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SOME LIFE D>.'l'A ON KENNETH ARllOLD
I wae born Maroh~, 1916 in Subeka, ~inneeot&.
Uy fat her 's name was
Edward Erb Arnoldi my mother's maiden name ns i3erth& E. Barden.
I was a
resident ot Minneeota until I was ·six yea rs old whon my ramily moved to
Scobey , vontana , whe r e they homestea~ed.
also homesteaded in Scobey,
My Y,randfather , Roland c. Ar nold
'ontana , and be came quite gromlnent in political
oirolee along with Surton K. Wheeler, the famou s Montana senator.
I went t o grad e school and hip;h school at l1 inot , Ho rth JJakota .
I
enter ed scouting at t we lve years of ago and achieved the r ank ot Be.gle scout
b efore I was fourteen.
..w forme r scout executive was u . rt. Prescott , now a
re giona l commissioner fo r the
1
0:r Scouts in l..a.nse.s City , Y.a.nsas .
As a boy , I was interested irl athletics and was se l ected as an a ll-
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sto.te ond in 1932 and 1933 in the et ate or 1:orth De.kot a .
U. S. Ol ym9ic t r ial s in ftn cy divine in 1932;
Exvminer dur ing t he yeor s or 1 ~32 , ' 33 and ' 34 .
I entor ed tlle
I was a Rod Cr oss Life Sc vinc
I ta.u~ht sw1!11J!l1ne; and di vint
at scout camps and tho municip al pool in . inot , l,orth wakot5. •
I went to the
Univ e r sity or .•i nneiso-t.o. , vrl1ere l s wam Pnd did f ancy di vin ~ unde r .,eils 'Iho l"'pe ,
and also played footbn ll unde r ae rnie ii e r r An , but upon enter ing coll ege I
was unab l e to continue my footba ll career because of an in j u red knee .
·y
hirh schoo l footbn ll ooecr. was Glenn L. Jarrett, who ia now the read footba ll
coo.oh of the Unive rsity of l\orth l.)akota .
I had litt le or no finances , and
my &:1bition in fu r t hor ine r:ry e ducation in col leie was throu~h my a t hl e t ics:
As a boy in 'inot , l,or t h ..;c.\-:otr , I did a &ooJ dorl -:, f dor- sled r e. cint; . placed
first with rtfJ doi; i n 1930 in tho Lions :;lul)
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lierby .
Ir. l :.13'3 I wer.t to i!Or'< fo r r.G d Comet , Inc . of Lit tleton , Co l o rado , a
nanufacture r of a •1tocati c fire f ight inc; ;pparatua .
In 133!, I v,a s .no.de
dist r ict manaee r f o r ti.er, over c ..,o. r t of the west orn sto.tos , nuci in 1 940 I
EXHI BI T "A"
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e stablished my ovm fi r e contr ol supply known as the '"reat \1estern Fire
Contr ol Supply.
I have been wor ki nt as an independent fire control
en&inee r since , and I handl e , dist r i bute , sell and install al l types of
aut omatic and manual f1 r o fi)lt i nt; equipment in the rur a l aroas over
f ive western. states • •
l'y flyinr; o.xperience started a:; c. boy- in 1·1not, liorth De.koto. , w .er e
I took my f irst rlyin~ le saon from Earl T. 7anoo , who was or i,i na lly rron
Great Pt ll a , - onta na .
lJua to the h i 0 h cost
at ·t hat ti~e , I wns unable to
cont inue my flyinr, and did not fly of any great consequonco unt il 1943 •
. I was g iven my pi lot certi f i cate by Ed Leach. a senior CAA inspector of
Portland. Ore gon. and f or tne l est t hr ee year s have owned my own air plane
ooverin& my entire territory with same and f l ying from fo r ty to one hundred
hours per month since .
~ wor k ,
Due to t he faot that I use an a irplane enti r e l y in
in Januar y of this yeo.r I purchased a new Calla i r airplane , which
is an airplane designed for hiuh a l t itude take- offs and s hor t rou&h field use .
In the typo of flyini I do, i t t&kos n great dea l of pract ice and
judgment to be abl e to l a nd in moat any cow pasture and r,ot out without
1njur1~
your airplaneJ
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tho runways a r e vor y li~i ted and t ho altitude i s
very hi gh in some of t he fi e l d s and places I ho.ve to go in my .,ork.
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date . I hove landed in 823 eov, past u r es in mounto.in IIM6ado,7a. and in over
a thousand hours a f l at tire has been my greatest mishap .
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The !'ollOTrint; :stor~, or what I observed over tne Cascade C10untaina •
a• 1~poaa1ble as lt cay aoe~; ia poa i t iTrly t rue .
! nove r as~ed no r -nted
any notorie.ty for Just acc1dently beln ; in t .'16 right 1-,ot at the ri r,ht ti,e
to obaer~o r.ho t I d ld .
haYe
r eported.
I r epo rted ,omethin
t hat I 'mow any ~ilot would
I don ' t t !\inlc tl ,, t ir. ~ ny W!'I " ir.:• o"-servation was due to an.v
seoaivity or •:·e 1 1 ht e r j uJ g::iont ttui.n
hat
i s c nn si uered nor-I'l l for any oi lot .
On June 24th. Tueaday , 1947 , I }uod finished my ~o r k ro r the Central Ji r
.
SerYi co at Chehalis , ,,a ,hintt;on. and at obout tl,o o ' oloclc I took off f'roo
Cneh& li a .
o.shint~ton . ai r port with tho int.euti on o r · oi-, · to Yalci u . ,faah .
/ t r ip wa ~ de l ayed to r an hour to search tor a large
rine t ranarort that
au,po aedl y went down ~•or or arounu the sout hwest side of ft . ~.ainier in the
at.ate of
,ashinGton and to date has never been round .
I flew dirootly towar d
t . Raini er arter reachlnc an a l titude of a.bout
9. 600 !'eet. which ia tho • ?proximate e levation o!' the hi :1 :,lntenu froo which
•.t . Hainer rise a .
I ilnd na do ono swoop or this hi gh p l a teau to the 'Westward .
aoe.rohing a ll or the various r i dges ror t his ma rine ahi? and Clew to t he west
down and near tho r idge ai de o!' the canyon where Ashfor J , 11ashington , 1s located.
Unable t o aeo anythinr. that looked like the lo st. ship , I made a ~GO degree
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turn to t he rir,ht and above the little oi t y of J'ineral • atartin"; again toward
.ft; .
Rainier.
I cli mbed back up to an altitude of ~oproximately 9 , 200 reet.
The air•• 10 Rooth that day that it was a real pleasur e tlyinr, and ,
•• most pilota do when the air ia smooth and t hey are flying at a higher
altitude, I trimmed out !!ty airplane in the direotion of Yaki .Qll .
aahingten .
whioh wa1 alJDOat directl y ea,t or m:, position and si,mply aa\ in m:J plan. ob•
aen-ing the •icy and the terrain .
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The r e was a DC- 4 to the left and to the rear or me approximately
i'ifteen mil es d i stance , nnd I should judge , at 14 , 000 foot elevo.t i on .
'rhe sky and n1 r w-as as olear as orystal .
I ho.dn 't flown more than
two or throo minutes on rny course when a b r i :;ht f lash r of l ooted on my
o.irplane .
or a.ft .
It start l ed me o.s I t hour,ht I wo.s t oo c lo:se to some other air ­
I lookod e very p l aoe in the sky nnd ooul dn ' t rinu where the rorleo­
tion hau cor:ie l'rom until I looked to tho l ert o.nd the north or
t .
..ainie r
wher o I observed a cha.in o r ninc1 oo culinr lookin~ niro1·nft flyi nr- ""rom north
to south at appr oxi1,,ately 9 . soo foot e levation nnd c;oin r: , seemin r l y . in o.
definite di rection o: a~out 170 de~ r oes .
They were approo.chin•~
they were jet planes .
t . 1\Sinier ver~• ra:, idly , and I nerely o.ssumod
Anyhow , I di scovered that t h1 s was wh eru thll r e fl e c ­
tion h{ld oorne from , as two or three o r tha in every few :seconds would di:> or
chan;e their course sH c.ht l ;v , just enou ·h for I.he sun l..o str iko t hem at an
ang l e that reflected b r i r;ht l y on my p l ane .
These objects boin - q u i te ra r oway , I was unab le !'or a f ew seoonds to
make out their shaoa or their Co r mc tion .
'!ery s hort ly they a opr oo.ched ••t.
~ainier , and I obse rved the ir ou~ lino s ~r i nst tho sno, QJi. u ~lLinl~ .
- thou ht it wo.s very --eculiar t:1r,t I coul:ln ' :.. f in.i t?1e ir tails but.
assumed "'..hey we r e some ty;,e or jet p lar.o .
I was tleterninou to cloc:: tb:i r
s peed . as I had two de!'ini -.e '.')Oints I could c l ock V ·1•J M :>;1 ; t.: r.: l- i r wn :; so
clear that it ,;as ver y oas:• to seo o'1je cts Pnd uet o r ....ir. , t toi l" c '''.Jr ox inut.u
s hape ar.d size at a l r,ost fift:· "!il• s tr.at. aa:' •
I r enet:1:>er distinctl.v tht t r:lY s'"rooo seco"ld h and on rn:' e i h~ da y clocic ,
.:hi ch is loco.tad on ~y inst rument ""10.nel , r ead one !nin 1t.o ~o S t> , ' . os tho
fi r s t object of this formation oassed t he sout he r n ed~e of
t.
ticie r .
I wyltched these objects with ~r eat inte r est r. s I h&d never '> "'o r e oo sorv9d

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airplnne~ flyin~ so close to t ho nountn1n topo , fly1n r, diroc t ly couth to
aoutheo.st d,,vm tho hor, ' s bock of n rnount1in rtinr,e .
J s,oul d es t imate thei r
elevation could have vo.ried a thousand feet nne we.:r or another up or dovm ,
but they l1e r e pretty much on t.hti horiz on to mo wh ich wou l J indicate they­
were near the s ome e l evation rs I was .
They flew liko many ~ime e I ho ve observ ed geese to f ly 1n a r ather
dia~onal chei n - like lino n s if tho~ were l inkea to rethe r .
:h~v seared to
hold a c.lefir.1 te di rect i on b ut r ather swe rved in end out of the n i ~h mountei n
peaks .
! hei r soeed at tho time did not imnress me ~articu l arly , b~oau3e I
knew that o ur army and
ti i r
"or cos had n l~nes thc.t w,. rit ver~, fast .
,fuot kept botherin~ ,~ us I wo.tc~ed Lhem ~l ip ard fls~h i n tno sun
ri ht u lon
thom , ana
th1 ir •10.U, w1..s the fe.ct
thot I coulcin 't :".like out
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il on
I ur.i suro tht.. t. any r,ilot \,ould justi f': 1 r.ore !.ha.n u socor.a look at
on P.S c lear a uay a s ii. was t;nr.1, . uesdc;; .
ln !'r c t r CO~")ared ft u ,us fas "';;one r
or cowlin' tool I hBd ~n ~y ~ocket wi t~ t h~m - holci n• i t up on thcrr ~nd
ho l din
it U? on the ~~ - • - th•t I coulo ob se rve at ouite a di sta~co to ~y
lert , und th" V seor:ed snollE:> r t i- 0 n th~ :ic- 4 ; ~ut , I shou l a j.1ci ·e +.h· ir s:,on
vtou l d ►,r,ve beon as wide o.s t h.- "ur t ,e r est en~i nes o n c. s.ch side o!' the
fusole r o o~ the ~c - 4 •
• he no r e : ob servoa +,he se ob.i..3c ts . t ..e •·ore ..1'lse t I be ca'lle , i..s J ar:i
accus tomed aria ff--: ili cr ,,i';h :-.o~t, all objects flyin 1; .:· ..:it.i"'r:;. e:-i close t.o
:·ounc. o r nt
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object ~s ent e r ing t he nor t he r n or osi o f the r i dr,e .
As I wa s rlyi n, in the direct ion or this :>ar ti cu l a r r ia.::;o , I c.casur ed
it and f ound i t t o be a ppr oximate l y f ive mil es so
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couL s fol:, ass Jmo '.hat
the oho.i n o f the s e s~ucar like obje ct s we r e at l oas t f iv e mi l e s l on ~.
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coul d quite accuratel y dete r Mine thei r ~athwc.:• uue t o •..h-, f act t .nt t l1er e
were sev-., r "\ l hi c;h -:>ePkS t .P t wo r e r li ttle t his s i de o!' ti.••:, ns vro ll as
nis hor ".> ee.·-cs o n tho 01;!1er si de of their -,ath1•,ay .
A s the
l r.. st unit of' thi s f'o r ll"Ation r,a. ssed the soutr1e rn :nost hirh s~ow-
cover ed cr est of .!t . Adan s . I looked at my sweep second ha n<l o.nu lt s11owea
t hat they had t r av el led the di st&nco in ono mi rut e and .'.'or ty - t ·.,o sec onds ,
: ven at t he time t his timin ~ di d nnt uo set rre as I r el ~ confi dent afte r I
wou l d l and t he r e woul d be s one ex~l ana tion of wnat I saw ,
A nu;nbe r
of ne ws men and exper t s ~~~rested thc t
seein P' r e fl - ct i ons or e v e n
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a s I ob s erve d ~ he se o bjec ts n o t
r miwht have ~oen
'rhis I know t o be abso l utely
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o nly t h~ou ~h th~ r l r s s o ~ ~y air plan e but
tur ned r:ry a irpl ane si deways whe r e I coul d ooen ny wi ndow 1:1nd ob se nre them
wi th e. conpl oto ly unobs t r uct ed v iew .
(,1 i thout. sun -lns se s )
~v9n~ hou,:h t wo minutes seems lika a ve r y shor t t i me to ono o.n t he
~r ound, in the ai r in t,,10 minute s ti ~e e. ni lot can ob se r ve a c r oat meny
thinl"S ana anythi n!' vrithin hi:; s i ht of vision ">r obobl y an ri:any ns !'i f t:r or
slx t.y t i ne s .
I continued rrry s~arch r or the J'l'larine pl ane fo r anothe r fi f teen or
twenty minutes and wnil o s ea r ching f or t hi s ma r ine pl a no , wha~ I had jus t
observed ke pt ~oi n~ t hrou ~h rrry mind .
I became mor e di s tur be d, s o a f t er
taking a l ast look at Tieton Reservoir 1 headed ro r Ya ki :na .
I mi ght add that my ·compl ete obse rvnt i on of t hose ob_joots , \'ihi oh' I
could eren foll ow b y the ir !'lashe s a s the y passed 1:1. . Adams , was ar ound two

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I di d ; ~ut, , it woul t. hf vo bt:o:, vc• r y ui!'f icu l 't. i'"r vr t.hC' , r oun-1 t.<' C'b s o rve
tho s o ro r -,o r o t hen rour or ."i v v :iccon~s , end Lr.u 1·e is• h.c :, t i.le !"'ossioi lit.y
or atr,osph o r ic no ist•1r o ur,-1 uusL n1..,u r tho r,r ound which cou l ~ .:1.sto r t c-n... ' s vi s i on .
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I woul J hav e ~i v en nl most nnyt 1in , tha t day t o hnvo had a ,ovie
cn:no r o. wit h a to l t-phot o l ons and f r orr1 ·now on I \Ii 11 n evor be vrit hout one
bu t , to continue f'u r t ho r 1·tith my story .
\'/hen I landod a t the Yakima , Wash .,
a irpo!'t I desc r i '.:>e d what I had seon to ny vo r y ·;ood fri onu ,
l :Jo.xte r , v.ho
l1st onod " 8t1ently and \'/a s , ve r y c ourtoou ::. ~ut i n e. j o kinr wa?·tlidn ' t. believ e no .
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Roport of unu::ua.l Cel estial Phcna:io?ll'.
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Headqu1.r-';e r!" Tacti -~:. .ir Ca:u-..rnd
Lo.ne;ley Fiel.! , -✓ir~i:tiA
1 . T'to foll~1inv re ort i:; :;utnitted concorn.i~~ an unu3Wll occurre:ice ob::crved b:,
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CAPT • .!IBD...A.1, , To.ndolph Field , Tox:1s
CAPT • J om; H.
2 . At Appro-/.i1.0.toly 2120 Contra.l time , a li.:;ht , ,r.ith a 'brilliance
sliiht ly :-;r aator than a. star , a.pponrod from tho 'lost . It \'l't\G firot noted
above the hori zon of a clear 1,1000- li;;ht ni.;ht , tr.i.velinc in a.n ea.A t~.:-ly
dir ection nt n hich r e.to of spood . Thora 1,nA no audib le sounr! :1nd it was
impoo niole to c.etorru.ne the n l -';ituc.o , exoe:-,t thn t, .it a.pr,onrad to be a. t
Gr ea-'; heicht . It traveled i nn zic za.G cour30 ,nth f r oquent bw'~t3 of
opoed ,.-.r.1uch liko a v,u tor uuc as it spurts a"'ld ::top:; ncro:Js tho sur.Co.oo of
water . I t continued unti l it was directly ovorh~d a.nd cha.l'll;Otl courso :)Qo
into tho couth . A.i'tor t ravolill{; in tho a b ove r.nnnor !'or o.pproxinnte ly fi"Te
(5) n i nutoo , it turnod oouthwoot· e.nd ,•,as loot in the b r i l lia.noJ of tho r.1oon.
at 2 145 Contr e.l it ,·in.a no loncer posoihlo to oboerve it .
3 . A ca.11 wns pla.cod to lJa.xwel l Fiol<l oparo.tion:i reforenoo titio
phenomom nnd inquirJ made if any oxporiuental a.i r e.raft 1·1 oro schodulod for
a. flir;ht in the vicinity . Tho reply wan negative .
4 . llo pl a usible expl amtion is o!'fe.red for tho unuooo.l o.ction of this
courco of li:1lt, which n ctod oontr&..ry to o.ny cOl'llnOn a.e rodynrunioe.l laws.
'i'hio report is submitted upon roqueot , in view of Lho many recont ropor ts
referenco \.10.U.::lual a.oria.l objoots obsorvotl throuchout tho u . s .
&. Two of the nbovo notod obsorve r o a r e r ated pilots and tho othe r two
are air intollic;once officor o . All oboorvo r o ·,,ore oold sobor.
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WMHINQTON l0, D . C ,

18 Jul7 1947
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late"1ew ot Penon ReporUn« tllidentitied Aerial Object

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Aaat Chief d Air S\atf-3
Collection ~re.nob, AJJ
Waahin«ton a~. D. C.

1. .l\ the requeat of Lt. Col . G. D. Oe.rrett, UJ A-2, the
un4eraipe4 baa interriewed. thia 4ate Mr. c. JI. Zohn, .ldainiatraUTe
Aaai■\aa\ 1A the Jtooke\ Soade Section. lllL, who bad preT1oual7
Nleued Wonatlon to the PNH ftCaZ'dinc an aerial objec\ which
he a\a\ed he •w at Vh1te Sallda • Bew Mexico• 29 June.
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Subatance ot the 1nte"1•w la aa followa :

At betYHD. 1:00 and 1:30 p. •• Sunday, 29 June 1947,
Mr. J. R. Bauke, mn. Rocket
Son4.• Section teleaetering eupe"1aor; Mr. C. c. Rockwood, llRL Rocket
Sonde hip &lt1tu4e apectrocraph acientiat; an4 Mra. llanoy Rockwood,
vite of the latter, wa• proceedinc &lone Bichw&y 17 in a •orth-katerl7
directioa t'ro• Laa Cruce■, Iew Menco to Whit• 8and.e Y-2 tirlnc groUDd•
la an au\o110bil• drinn 'b7 Mr. Iauke. At aom• time between tho•• ginn
a11d about oae-third ot the diat&Dce fro• Laa Cruea Mr. Baulce, who waa
dr1Tinc the car, noticed the aubject ct.Tic• and called attention to the
other oco-capenta. Mr. Zohn opened the viJM\ow neanat him and obeernd
th• obJect aoTing at • unknown rspid Teloc1t7 at an -cmlalovn altitude,
vhioh be e■U•tect at about 10.000 feet. u.4 which Mr. k"aD, vbo alao
obael'ftd it thro'QCll • .~
window, Htiaated at betnen 8,000 and
10.000 feet, al.thouch the toner pnta little credence in the ••ti.ate■•
!Ir. 7.olm, in the colll)NlT of the tollovin,;:

When fir■t aighted th• object vaa to the right and forward
of the autoaobil• at an ,matated elen.tion and waa • PP•rentl7 aoTin,;
horisontally in a •ortherly diNction av.eh a■ to oroH the highway fro■
ript to left. '!'he object vaa obHrnd by &11 peraona in the autoaobile.
Mr. 7.olm etate4 that he coul.4 aot obHr..-e &Jl7 detaila of the object
other tbaa tbat it ■ ahape va■ ,m1fora, with ao protuberance• mob aa
th• w1nc■ of an airplane. It waa too diatant to epable atereo■co oic
Ti811&1.isatioa. '!'here vu appareZLtl7 ■olH eolar apecular reflectioa
which ••-ed t o ~ 1A intenaity ae the object receded until it
waa loat fro• eight after an eaU-.ted 30 aeconda troa the ti.me tir•t
aoUced. Be could aot e,cplain bow it 41 aappeared except perbapa that
the reflection an«l• 8AT baTe ch.azlce4 abruptly. !'here were app&rently
no cloud.a or T1aibillt7 ob■truetiona at the ti••• The aun wa.a to the
rear ot the autoaobile. Mr. :taulce tho~t that at one time be aaw
T&por traila.

Ltr, .ALO, NRL, 18 July 47 to M•t Chief Air Statf-2, Collection Br., A>J,
•ubj: "Inter,-iew of Per•on Reporting Unidentified Aerial ObjectN
3 . Thi• interview va• made in the pre•ence of Dr . H. E. Newell,
Act1n& Rocket Sonde Section Head, vho •aid that Mr. Zohn had recently
been in the Ba•y and h familiar with the appea.r ance of the ma.Jor1ty of
aircraft type• and with meteorological balloon•. Mr. Zohn al•o •tated
that none of the occupant• of the car were intoxicated.
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C.r~t,,.i-, E • .; . C.!'.~To was :.ntorvi ~ .--,-! .. ~ 1 500, 0 .:-'lY 1917, concurn!ns
t~e • flyi~b Jisks ", ar~ sta t<-1 W#~~~1'!"!t: ~llv ~, !'allows:
"""o 16ft .;:iois e , I d,.~1,,,. et 2::i"4 rc.(.i!'ic S:,..., -1 :i.n. :.:.""!• . A~ approx ir:,itoly
2015 , the co- pilot, Ralph STE'"IE:S, calle~ ,y ott1J'1t 1 ?~ o t he f :rst o~~~ct
S'3en .
7ic ..,~r ~ .,hr-n i"l t i'l" •1ici-,ity of Ot..-"t , ldci.1>, our altitude we~ c.:,p­
r?ximet~ly 6500, and ~ e wPr J clL-~:.~~ t o o~r ~roposoc cr ~i sing altitu i e cf
3000 !'ro~ t h er'3 t o Po 1dleto-:. , C,1·ub,;,-, .
~ -·" .~()9.dinb ? !' tho pl::i...-,e '\t th at t.i.'"lo
-..u 300 due;reeo l:c._;netlc '' ortr., as1d t i.13 ..,i., ~._c+ (-,.,,.) --.a... ::.:..;htG:! a t- ~ .... .--,,c­
:!.>r.atJly 2 ~0 r.!.:._,.:- .. ~s , C. '" t ., -l-.-r-J9S b :, ;: ..:- l !'t . : :,'ffl an otrl,H t ior11l !'-:,.u­
c~_:!3ct:: q>i) ee:- J1 to .,}"I,, 1 " :t er thtJ 11:1....:.., , .:,r . ; ,.s , ':>bjoct. rl1es e !-, .r
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ob~~~tc appearc.~ ~li0 htly sm~l ler th~n t~~ fi -st c~j~ct _ : 0 ~tuJ, t~t c._ l
of t~o o~j'9cts a ppe11:-..,J on t he t '!."'"l- r l ".nc . : ..... t l:r.'it .. J ":.h~ Al t !.t...1.!<. ..,.
th~ object~ t o bu ti.r-o...t 8500 . r,...y ...,,..r .. ·-:: th::. o_.- ::.liht !'or a:-:,:-"""!.:'l"tc. ly
two rr.1~...t~c, -..hM t~"Y ji:::c.:,:9.,f'lrt><l .
" Shortly aft6r the !'irat g r c~i) disap?ear~d, probabl y O"le er t w? w:n~t~•
later, the oeco~ d gro~i> eyp~o.r~J abo...1t 310 d~~i uc~, o ~ to the ri~ht of the
plime . 7h.,ir i.ltit•.1de was t!le r--;,, > o.s ~ho :'irct 6 r o.1,;,. ;:ir o• of the orj~cta
e:,peareJ to b ... on th~ Cant, plen•, lltld one 0¥~0-· 'l!'r " ~r<.J ::li6 htly hi0her
Vld to the right o~ t hE: other& .
':'!,13 s ...o-,:,1 6 r oup stpy.,-! T;.:, tt.i n o..r sl.,h~
twel'le to f.:..!'toon :nin.1tc.:o, thon dls app~nrc.J . ':':<; i.'lri l E;·tulled off by the
t.i.ne tho second gro-.lp d:s~pp eP~ ...J .
"~~e v~ j•ots wore nat on th e =~&e , the top s!i~htly r ough i~ contour .
The dimenaiona appeared the s::imo ~3 a DC- 3 appro~imately fiv e ~ilrJ from
ua . IL ?.,er 11':)rds, it could have been nl~ety ci les away if it would be
possible for an obj~ct as larb~::..: t hat ~o~l1 have to bet~ b~ flying, but
sinco "'"' J.i1n't knO'II' l'lha.t we were look!.ng l\t or !low lart,~ it was, we de­
cided that if it were the si ze of a · DC- 3 winb s pan (90 :oet) , lt was about
r:ve milco c!.:.3tect . Actually, w~ t o.Te no lde~ Just ~ow large it -:,ras since
~e c~ul d ~~t 1etenn1ne it~ di,tM ce frc~ ~•• l'fhen we first sightad tho
objects, we decided they wer o oither goin~ away from ...1a or ootnine towar dn
\.41! .
Alter a ahort ,Thile , l10'Tev~r, we k:nO'l'I' they coulJn' t be oominc; toward:l
~s , bocauae we ne v~r approached them. I d?n 't believe th ey could have
bee~ 6 oing a. groat rate of cp•~d and atill st~ed in si&ht for a s long as
they did. I wo ...11 Ju~e t hey r.iight t.ave bEson travelling about 300 miles
per hour .

"1.::,· pers ~n,u opinions r 8&arding th e object3 are - that their speed
varied, was not conatllilt. ffi'lm first ai&hted, they were going s low o.nd
s t ayed within aisht for quite sooe time. However, when we lott ai 6 ht of
them, they seeme1 t o di sap,ear ~rnotically immediatoly. I think they
either put on a tran9ndous burst of speed and disappeared from s ight , or
else they dissipated. Also, it appeared that only one objeot, th e large
one, was cort rolled, and it in turn controlled the other objects , and I
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--" IL ~oth instancos, the co- pilot s l~hted the obj~cts firs~ end call c1
'; 11e weather 'l'!'aB cl..i~r and unlimited, with not a cl:>ud
in the sk'.r. 1:'fe checked the wind, an d .it was 230- 10, o r c ...t. c: t ho South'1"1est
at ten miles per hour . The ai r spE"P1 of tht ~hip was abo~t 135 ;JPH. 7he
sun was bel ow the hor iion and t he objects wer e silhoueted against t he sky,
ht!ll'lce w~ coul d distin~uiah no col or or ref lection . "

-ey attention t o them .

Ralph GT~!S, co - pilot vf the plane, was intG~viewed et 2130, 9 J uly
1947. STE\:::?-1S corroborated the r emarlca cade by St~ITH .;;oncarnin~ the f li&}lt
of t he plane, the time the objects were sighted, dir ect ion of th~ f libht of
the plane, etc . Ther e wer e two discrepancios in thei r stat.m:ents as ~o t he
si ze of the small er objeots an~ the alti t ude gt w;.ioh t hey were flyinb •
STEV'JWS atated that ther e was a big differenc~ in t he si1.e of the larg e
obj eota a nd t he smal ler ones , and that it was ha rd to dis t inguieh the ah ape
of the small e?" ones. STEVE:rn alco stPtod that the object s .,..er o at the aame
altitude s.s their pl ane a nd eefl'!led to b e cli.mbin 6 with t hem . In addit ion t o
confirmi ng S'~ lT~ ' S stat ~ents concer ning tr9 f l ight, etc . , STb"VENS stated
oubstll..~t ially a s fo llowsa
" I was f l ying t he plan e when I apott ed the fir s t object Pt 2012 on t h e
4t h of July, eight minutes after depar ture from Bois e, Idaho . I t hought i t
waa an oncoming aircraft similar to ourc (DC- 3) about five mil es awftY. ao
t u.med on our landing lights , whio~ is the usua l s i gnal t o anot h er pl ane t o
let it know you' re in the vicini ty . I mEll"tioned t.hi s fac t to SY.ITH, and he
watohed the objeot also . While we were botr watching, fo~r more objects
appenr od at t he se.r.o a ltit~do a s th e f i rst . They s eemed t o be at the s ftme
altitude as our plane, about 6000 fe et. They were heading about 290 dPgr ess
magnet ic North. so I t u rn ed to follow them. Vie wa tohed them fo r fou r or
f i ve minut es, then t h ey all mer ge d as on e and disappeared. I don ' t lm01'!'
t'f.1ether they mer ged i n 1i.ne of f l ight or not , nor do I know whether thel·
went b eyond our vision or wh ether they di ss ipated .
"Two minut es l ater, the large ob j ect reappeared wi t h thr ee smaller
ones on i ts l e.ft an d one small er one a g reat a 1stance t o the ri&ht . W~
had t he second &r oup in si ~ht fo r about twelve minutes . The last t il'\e
seen , they wer e ct i ll i n t ha t formation and disappeared into t he s unset.
Als o, when we last caw t hem, they e eemed to have cont inued cl imbing aft~r
we l ev el led off and wer e a.bout nine or te.n t housand feet .
"At the timo we aaw t he objeot s , t he sun wae below t h e hor i zon, but
t her e was quito a bright r od glow above t he hor i zon from the sunset . i
couldn't r eal l y •~ what distanc e they were from ua , not knowing what they
were or how large they we r e . However, while we we r e watch i ng t hEllll we
radiod ahead to Ontario . Oregon, about t hirty mi l es dist ant , t o th~ weather
s tation there, and t ol d t h em what we were s eeing and asked thern t o 60 out ­
aide and cee if t hey coul d aee t hem. They r adioed back anrl saia they could

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aee nothing. • o the objects could have been beyond Ontario. •lnoo we had
told thom that they wero b etwea:i our plane and Ontario . It should alan be
•noted that the pera.o nnel at Ontario would b o looking at a dark alcy and
~ not be l i kely to be o.bl e to a eo them anyway .

•1 oan' t •a:t whether th-ey are lllan-made diaka or nbt, whether they are
radio controlled or not, or onythinb about them, They did not maneuver muoh
at all, except when the first group merged. All I can •a:t 1a that t~ey were
going our direotion and were climbing . I don't think they were clouds, aa
there hadn't been a oloud in the alcy, end it wou l rl ho. ve been qui t o a pha:i­
• Onlenon a• it was l ike nothing I had ever seen before . There was a big dif­
rerenoe in the ai&e of th~ objeota. The amaller one• were hard to diatinguiah
as to ahape; t ney were not shiny. nor did tho •r11p• . I couldn't swear on a
stand that they were not olouda, but I think it impossible. l a d they been
clouds, they wouldn't have appeared and diaapp,arod s o suddenly, end we
wou ld h&ve approached them .

"A• we wero taxi in& out to take off ~ro~ Boise, tho tower oalled us
and uked us if we had •~en imy ~i•k• lately. Aa ~ conaequenoo , we were and
had bem talking abo~t the flyi~ di sks when we sighted th'll'I\. I don't baliove,
however, that i t waa a f igment or the imagination, as S11ITH and I were seeing
the aa:ne thi~a, ev en t ho object far off to th o right in the second s roup .
'ffe also called tho st~-.rard~s• , whn bad not ~oen in on th~ co,,versatio~ . and
ff'i't hout me!'ltioninb " ~iaka• akaed ~er w~at she saw. She state1 that 1hfl! aaw
t 'le s a:no thin.;s we did, which s eC!"lled to prove t o ..lll that j t was not. our
!.ma;inat ion."
In addition t o the abovo, STCTV.S statod, off the . e~ord, that h e was
rat h er disappointed in SMTTa tnd all th~ publicity he r~ R ~etting . uo
t hol.l{;ht t hat SlJITH was probably "grnnd-atanti.ing" aome, and that as far ~s
~ e , STEVEfJS, ws1 ooncerned, he wu not 6 oing t o t~ intorviewf'j by any r t- ­
por~ers, or go on the ~adio, et c . Jo stated that he WAS b lad to talk t o
a -~-..vy r epr11!S9'\t&t~vo a.bout it, or to any ot~er ~ove'"?Ullent official, M:i
hel p ::..n &"'1:Y way he coul.i, b•.1t :.e certainly did.-' t ~.,t t o be b-:>thercd r.. t o
a lot of intervi ews wlt'l ~"spspers nnd radio stations . ST~li''S :e~ed to
the writer to b o e vory level heade1, a ena\bl o man, ar.~ not in r~vor or a
l ot of }'~blicity, ltl ereaa s,~ITE, alt.,-,:,itt}, a a-,::ia i bl o mM and all , e ene..! to
• ~ mor ~ in fa·,or of t1.ll t ~e publicity he was i;Ottin& •

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Incident
4il' 1208 I

16 July 1947

MBKJUNDUtl Fm T1£ OFF'ICER Df CHAROE:

l. On 12 J ~ 1947, Captain Sini.th, o~ the United Airlines, was
interrlaed at the Boise !-lun.icipal Urport, Boiae, Idaho. Captain
5111th wu passing t.hrouah Bot.• on a echedule flight at the time and
had a 20 ainute stop-oYer. Captain Smith rei.terat.d the etatements
origiDally aade by bi.a to the press as to what he bad •••n in tha late
• Y ~ of J'l.117 4th, wti.n 8 ainutes out ot Boise on the route to Seattle,
Wuhi~ton. It is th• opinion ot tbe intervi•er that due to tha poal tion
Captain Saith occupies, that he, Captain Smith , would have to be Te'rT
etrongl.7 convinced that he actually saw t1ying disk• be.tore he would open
huuelr tar the ridicule attached t.o a report ot this type.

16 July 1947

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T, .ijor Archie "1 . Bromine , ,C , •j o ho r eb., m1ear, Usie dete ,
that t'. .c. follcdnt st.;.te;..ent s a re t r ue to the best of :'l\i. krionlod~e :
' On 6 July 191.?, <iile £lyir1g frcm Ocden , Utah , to Yansas

C~tJ , 'issouri, at 1(1()()1) ft 1r. a

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was 1 : 15 f . • • , and position approY...iJnately 100 m.i.l '.:c ~,es t of
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·,oter tant- .
fter c heckine r.i; po::;iticn on th~ map ! a..;ii n
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D 000 ft . T"le bri ~htness of the object which I ,·rould 3st .i.11a te
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until I s~rted to t.un 1 into it, then it. c r lot e l y iisapp r oct.
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P:u:k£1.ee rec eiv -,1 frori 3herirf llerle r . Wilmoth, ·:;a.tseka, Ill. His
1 ~ t -,r s tRt es t he inst rumft1 t in the package was fo und by a tarri1er at
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bur n ed w"eds 2,2 feet t.nl l to fine ash an a rea of l} feet ir. diam. around
wh~r e t he ohje ct dropped .
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Jol.lt Lake i:ity , Utah. Pat ilAy 10 1910 & Jept 14, 1?16. l'at r;os
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~opper wire . These w~re obviously coils w1ct the irapact ha s t orn
t he wi re from t.he core. ( Our radi o s ection d efinit ely states t hat
t his is old stuf f , or t he coil s wer e u s ed quite some ti.me ~ o ,
sinc e hav ine b een repl aced by slllAller oore ef f icient co ils )
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t h e p ower micr ophone as a r es ult of the irapa ct.
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pi~ce s w~r e held toget her by wi re r~in f or c ernent inside the plast er or paris.
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SSTANDARD FORM No. 64 )
Office Memorandum + onirep states GOVERNMENT
G47 JUL 22 AM II 4a.
70 2 Mr No. 1, Ns¥s DATE: 7/15/47
Moxom, Regional Of
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FROM + My. Wright, WAS, Ricanond, Vé Maelo
SUBJECT: “Flying Disks"
We hesitate to make this report coneerning cur pilot
observations in regards to a flying disk because « ec
national skepticism regarding the subject at present. However, local
newspapers inform us that the U. 5, Government admits no authority for
-sueh a ship or object and for its flights, Then we must assume this
strange object to be foreign. Therefore, we submit this report for your
information. If sighted again, we wonder if it would be a good idea to
drop the balloon and instead make observations on this disk.
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Mr. Minczewski has observed this strange metallic disk on three
Occasions through the theodolite ‘while making his pibal observation
during the last six months. Miss Baron has reported observing it on
ome oceasion. Miss Baron's report agrees with Mr, Minczewski's observations
except as to the color-which she reported as a dull metallic luster.
» Minegewski last observed tHi's disk in April 1947 at the 1100E
Pibal Observation when the balloon was at 15 thousand feet. fhe disk was
followed for 15 seconds, apparently moving on level flight from east to
west to the fer north of the station. The object was a metallic like Chrome
* -shaped something like an ellipse with a flat level bottom and a dome like-round
top. The disk appeared below the balloon, was much larger in size in the
instrument, and shined like silver. It was impossible to estimate the height
or speed of the disk except that it appeared to be moving rather rapidly.
Miss Baron observed the Wisk when her balloon was at about 27 thousand feet.
AIL days observed were either clear or with very few clouds and good visibility. - |
Very truly yours, ,
Droge f bhught | /